KillingTimeItself @ KillingTimeItself @lemmy.dbzer0.com

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i'm neither for or against it, personally i'm ambivalent, because i'm not middle eastern, jewish, nor do i live in the middle east, nor anywhere near it. It's literally a waste of brain power to think about it.

Of course, arguing that i think killing people is good, is fucking stupid, obviously that's bad. But there are reasons people are being killed, and i'm not delegating that problem to myself, considering i have literally no relation. You would have to find a genuinely insane person to agree with that fact, so there's no point in even entertaining it on a factual basis.

Would it be nice if israel stopped bombing palestine? Yeah, would it be nice if the US stopped arming them? Yeah, does that ultimately make a difference in regards to the conflict? No. I don't think anything you did today, even if you managed a complete ceasefire on good terms, would make a good faith effort to stop this conflict. It's a brutal conflict, there is no easy to solve it.

Reverse ethnic cleansing of israel is not really a good solution either, for several reasons. Notably morals. Likewise yeeting palestine off the map isn't productive either.

Ultimately though, both of the parties are willing to fight, and one of them just keeps losing, over and over. At some point they did this to themselves, and i'm not sure where that point is. (granted, israel has committed numerous war crimes throughout this conflict, i'm not absolving them of that one either, don't worry) neither party is particularly intelligent here.

and a lot of it is also 20 years old, because not everything happened yesterday, it's almost like shit happens in the past or something.

He spent decades campaigning on anti-crime discourse that prioritized higher budgets for police to spend targeting minority communities, a fact he was absolutely aware of.

this was during the 90s crime wave? Right?

Let his failure be a galvanizing lesson about all the failures of American liberalism. Leftism is the only true political opposition to fascism.

i have yet to see a single lefty produce a functional model of government. Liberals base their entire ideology off of a functional governmental model. You have an uphill battle in this regard.

legitimately biden admin has been the most productive admin in the US government since like, FDR maybe. There are probably a few others, but most have been rather boring.

judging by the results from the election, yeah no. Nothing would've changed it.

there's no context, that's the problem. Depending on their friendship this could be very normal, or it could be very weird, without any context this is batshit insane.

yeah, if anybody is stating that they could (presumably) get sex from anybody, that's borderline rape at some point.

yes “I could have you if I wanted”

i mean, in some twisted sense of the word, if they were a better/different person, they could have them.

good bait bro

Them calling it “unlimited” when there’s a limit is wrong, but so is using all of the available upload bandwidth 100% of the time on a cheap home VPN service when you consider the current market prices for data transfer. Mine’s limited to 2Mbps. Seems fair for $7/month or whatever it is.

they shouldn't make it unlimited them, skill issue on their part.

If you're selling me 1Gb networking speeds, with no bandwidth limit, it's not my fault for using all of it lol. I'm just using what i pay for.

if somebody does a little torrenting you can just hand wave it, but if someone is doing all of the torrenting, you pretty clearly know about it.

that's true, and theres probably some truth to it, but it's not a direct 1:1 comparison, so it's not just fair to say it's only gun control laws, when there are about 10 reasons it could be actually influencing it, though realistically a few of those are probably gun control related.

yeah no i understood that part, but aside from the title saying that cops shoot it yearly? It's not anywhere in the text block i can see, maybe it's in the source article? But then why wasn't it included here either?

That's why im asking, there has to be a reason, it's not just cops unlawfully discharging firearms into the gravestone of someone that is not their family, i.e. illegal vandalism.

but liberal regulation is to try to maintain capitalist markets against their own failures.

wow you discovered why governments exist! Good job, do you want a gold star sticker? If the markets and economies didn't fail, you wouldn't need government, ever, for anything. The entire point of the government is to fix problems like this.

A homeless guy can’t just immediately become a billionaire by saying that there should be a competitor of genetic testing with 23andMe.

no, but if he's a good public speaker, he might be able to get large investment rounds for a competitor to them, and then if the engineers and experts at that company, do a good job, he technically could become a billionaire, though that's unlikely from just one success.

wow look another facetious argument.

I'm not pro "oligarchy" i'm pro liberal governance, oligarchy is by definition, not liberal. It gives excised power to people with money, that is by definition not liberal.

I'm pro capitalism because i think capitalism as a decentralized method of controlling the markets and businesses (i also think that regulation is important, because i don't have brain damage like libertarians seem to, but for some reason anytime someone on the left hears that someone is a capitalist, they assume they must be anti-regulation also), is the best way to go about it. State controlled markets simply cannot work, unless someone proposes a white paper disproving me, i will maintain that point. But if you can deterministically create an economy, that supports the needs of everyone in that economy, feel free to disprove me. The problem is that you can't because it's such an incredibly complex problem.

pro market economy isn't really a bad thing? I like people being able to buy and sell things, it's good. It's problematic sometimes, and rough other times, but that's just how it is. The market will generally bring itself to a normalized position over time.

i am literally against elon musk being in the government, people in the government having and owning investments, i think it's corruption plain and simple, i'm against corruption because it obviously leads to a negative outcome for the people the system is supposed to work for, again, liberalism does not like that.

Maybe it isn’t a failure of the goal, but that willing yourself into power isn’t going to magically make it happen.

it certainly won't be the left doesn't even have a plan of what to do when they get into power, the liberals don't really either, but we at least know what we want governance to look like, and that's a great start.

The left hates the current form of US government, and the things they want that they can clearly spell out, are not forms of governance, merely policy, so i'm not sure how they plan to get from step 2, to step 5 without falling in a hole somewhere.

yeah, and it created it because we were the ones voting lmao. We voted idiots into power, they stayed in power because we liked them, and they fucked up the government irreversibly.

It's not that complicated, we did this to ourselves at the end of the day.

these are all great ideas. But it doesn't make a functional government.

I'm not sure how anybody here is expecting to implement these if they hate liberal governance (the entire structure the US is based on) if you can't even begin to theorize a functional structure of governance including those things.

statistically, someone who goes outside, unless they go into a shitty part of town, where this kind of violence is more common, isn't going to be exposed to it.

It's like claiming that because we bombed japan in ww2, that the US population has radiation sickness.

The virctims in gang violence include innocent bystanders.

i mean it certainly can, but statistically, gang violence is going to be between gangs. Whether or that happens to be among specific racial, or ethnic groups is a different story entirely.

Of course there is also the question of gang violence hitting non violent members of the local community which may or may not be involved in that gang specifically, but that's a different problem.

We all know exactly what you’re really saying here and you’ll deny and make excuses about it.

yeah, and it's that specific communities, which tend to be correlative with racial/ethnic groups (you wouldn't disagree with me on this one, judging by your comment acknowledging this fact) tend to have issues with discriminate, or indiscriminate violence between members of their community, for various reasons.

This is usually a phenomenon restricted to certain geographic areas though, it rarely makes it way outside of these areas, to places where "mass violence" is most commonly reported on. Because it's not common.

quick edit: all i'm going to say, is that im not reading into the racial/ethnic problem here, you are. I'm just pointing out that gang violence tends to be isolated, concentrated, and easy to avoid.

i mean obviously, but unless you aren't teaching kids how to read/write in school, the amount of complete ignorance you would need to expend in your adult life to backslide so far on something so ingrained into your brain structure is genuinely impressive.