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  • People use whatever bad faith arguments they want, it does not change facts.

    Arab League countries have attack Israel many times with conventional war and covert terrorism. They also openly state they want Israel destroyed.

    Israel has a massive military advantage over its surrounding neighbors. If Israel wanted the destruction of Jordan and Yemen, for example, just as much as Jordan and Yemen want the destruction of Israel... the IDF could wipe them out. But they don't.

    That combined with the fact that tens of thousands of Arab Muslims live and work in Tela Viv while no Jew can openly live in Jordan or Yemen tells you which side is trying to wipe someone out.

    Yes, IDF is going way too far in Gaza now and they need to back off.

    But they are in a very difficult situation due to being surrounded by fanatical enemies.

  • Hamas just rejected the 45 day ceasefire this past April

    They also rejected the disarmament proposal in April

    There is one on the table now mediated by the US which involves 60 day ceasefire, 10 hostages released and increased aid. Israel ageeed, waiting on Hamas now

  • 1948 Firsr Arab Israeli war

    1967 6 day war

    1973 Yom Kippur War

    And then tens of thousands of rockets fired into Israel

    Oh and all the suicide bombings inside Israel

    Afula bus bombing, Sbarro bombing, Passover massacre at Park Hotel, Hebrew University bombing, Ashdod Port, Mercaz massacre

    They've been trying!

  • People in those regions (modern Jordan, Yemen, Syria, Egypt etc) have been killing and persecuting jews for a lot longer.

    What the IDF is doing now is horrible and they need to stop. Hamas also needs to accept a cease fire and the entire Arab Muslim world needs to chill out from their "kill the jews" attitude they've had for like.... hundreds of years

  • If Israel wanted their neighbors dead just as much as their neighbors want Israel dead, they could use conventional weapons to achieve that.

    If the Arab League countries had the ability to invade Israel and kill every Jewish person there, they would do that.

    Tens of thousands of Arab Muslkms live, work and even serve office in Tela Viv.

    Less than 100 jews total live in Yemen, Jordan, Syria, Egypt etc... The rest fled for their lives or where killed.

    How come Jews in Tela Viv - Yasof can live side by side with Arab Muslims while Jews would not survive in the neighboring countries?

    Hamas and the rest of the Jihadist Muslims are using the palestenian people as pawns to sway international opinion away from Israel so they can one day destroy it.

    It's not a just a conflict between Israel and Palestine. If you zoom out you will see its really a conflict between the west and jihadist Islam

  • The people and governments of all the countries surrounding Israel are fully open in their desire to see every Jewish person in Israel dead.

    The only reason they do not make this happen is because militarily they cannot. They tried several times.

    Israel actually has the ability to kill all the people in those countries as they have air superiority and nuclear weapons. Of course they don't do it.

  • I looked it up, thanks for letting me know about it

    BTW I didn't down vote your comment, I appreciate all sincere discussion

    To me Plan Dalet sounds like a very logical preparation Israelis would enact for the obvious massive Arab attack on them.

    Just a cursory knowledge of middle eastern history makes it obvious that Arabs would instantly attack any Jewish state near them. And they did, repeatedly.

  • The Arab counter attack?

    During the first phase of that war, the Civil War from November 47 to May 14, 1948 it was Arab militias that attacked Jewish communities.

    During the second phase of that war, it was the Arab League that invaded Israel on May 15, 1948

    Imagine if the Arab states never invaded from the beginning and just were ok with Jews existing next door to them.

    We know the Jews would have been ok with Arab Muslim states existing next to them as there are currently many Arab Muslims living and working in Tela Viv.

  • It's the aftermath of the first Israeli Arab war

    The second Israwl was established just about all the countries in that region attacked it right away.

    Egypt, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and what is now modern day Jordan all teamed up and invaded Israel. A neighborhood welcome party.

    Israel won and took some buffer territory around it just in case all these countries would decide to invade it again. All those countries ended up trying to invade Israel two more times (6 day war and Yom Kipur War)

    It is very unfortunate what happened to the people displaces by these wars. The Arab League shouldn't have tried to wipe Israel off the map in the first place.

  • You are 100% correct that we as a society have a problem with this

    That's why the individual has to take extra care to eat right and excersise. Their doctor needs to emphasize this as much as possible.

    VCan we fix out society? I don't know, I sure hope so. But in the meantime people are responsible for their own health.