Ha. I think that was in the further reading section of the Wikipedia article. You’re not wrong. I was just providing a this is what happened historically…
See Worcester v. Georgia essentially two states attempted to secede and the federal government stepped in (after first defying the court) to save the union. Does not bode well for the union at this point in history.
This is 100% correct.
Also don’t discount the economic system working as intended. If I get off the hamster wheel to “riot,” my family quickly loses basic necessities.
Once my best alternative to a negotiated resolution moves off that reality (meaning keep my head down and my family will get through this) more options become available. The system is designed to keep a critical majority on the wheel.
Don’t forget they are not being released in isolation. They have existing networks and just proved their loyalty to the cause.
It took me a bit to get there but I finally did. I was genuinely confused. I appreciate the exchange and you sticking with it until I caught up
Ha. The client I use is really bad when the posts get that deep. I was so confused by that comment at first and then in the middle of responding it hit me.
I appreciate the exchange and you sticking with it until I caught up
I am not defending liberals. I was taking issue with what I thought was a liberal-conservative comment. In the context of a law regulating firearms in the USA that is an easy mistake to make.
With that clarification the prior comment by someone of “we are all communists here” and my response demonstrates my mistake.
When did I move goal posts? Honest question.
It’s a NY state bill on an issue related to firearms. In that context it is not strange to read the word liberal on the same context.
Now that I understand you mean liberal v communist it is more clear. Although I don’t understand the significance of a NY liberal vs any other state.
Thanks for clarifying. Considering it is a NY state bill, I assume you can understand my confusion.
Please list the liberals, other than the sponsor, that are in support of the bill.
Edit: assuming that you mean liberal v communist as raised in the other posts, my confusion came from the qualifier “NY.” Aren’t most US politicians liberals in this context? What is it about the NY specific variant that matters in the context of the bill?
It’s hardly being pushed through. It’s currently in an assembly committee. You are reading liberals pushing a bill that will likely not even make it to the floor into the current state of the bill for some reason, which is outside my business.
Never said blue-red. Said conservative-liberal. The point I made is that those are all arbitrary distinctions designed to turn worker on worker.
My point exactly. This is a bill promoted by the capital class (that can get access to weapons easily) designed to prevent labor from having the means of producing their own means of self defense.
The last line of his comment is
Fucking NY Liberals
The Bill is 387 words long. It provides a definition:
"THREE-DIMENSIONAL PRINTER" MEANS A COMPUTER OR COMPUTER-DRIVEN MACHINE OR DEVICE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A THREE-DIMENSIONAL OBJECT FROM A DIGITAL MODEL.
A random google search provides the following definition:
Computer numerical control (CNC) is a manufacturing method that automates the control, movement and precision of machine tools through the use of preprogrammed computer software, which is embedded inside the tools.
I agree the bill is stupid. It’s equally stupid to make this a conservative vs liberal issue. This is a ruling class vs subservient class issue.
Stop playing into artificial distinctions designed to fracture the power of the many. Be better.
Please don’t sleep on JD Vance. While Trump is selling out the constitution, he is the tip of the want-to-be authoritarian spear: Is There Something More Radical than MAGA? JD Vance Is Dreaming It.
100% agree with both points. The disconnect is the timeline each considers. As a father I am deeply empathic for the children that are not able to advocate for themselves and the immunocompromised that are basically left to be assaulted by other’s ignorance.
But longer term, think multigenerational, the higher death rates for the anti-vax crowd may be the correction that leads to better overall outcomes for humanity.
This is why I love Lemmy. Thank you for being an amazing internet citizen.
Not disputing any of this, but an article associated with Barry Weiss? Have any other legitimate sources that corroborate any of the opinion points? She doesn’t have the best rep. And that article made broad generalizations and associations.
For example, the headline implies that this was a position Biden held. However, Trump said he would do the same thing Trump Says He Would Block US Steel Acquisition by Nippon Steel
This Axios article at least makes the point that while all of the above may happen, it’s so complicated that the proof will be in whether jobs disappear or not.
The real headline is neither major political party cares about the working class and is pandering to the whims of those who hold power.
I let you have this win, seems like you really need it! XOXO