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Maybe they've always been Mordor
Maybe they've always been Mordor
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Murica was never free, has always been madness
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We were freed from England. Slaves were freed from slavery. But, no, we were never freed from plutocracy. We've made attempts, though. There will always be someone trying to opress. There will always be a culture of servitude because in service of others power is concentrated.
Although, America has continued to fight for its freedom. Sometimes winning. Sometimes losing. As a result Americans have experienced more freedom than those who came before.
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Although, America has continued to fight for its freedom. Sometimes winning. Sometimes losing. As a result Americans have experienced more freedom than those who came before.
Most brainwashed people on earth.
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Americans have experienced more freedom than those who came before.
[citation needed]
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I dunno read a book.
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Like any one at random? haha
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What books are you reading that you think 1776 was about anyone's freedom except for the bourgeoisie's freedom to exploit the working class and genocide the natives?
That's not to say the people who did the fighting and dying didn't think they were fighting for freedom, just that they were surprised when they were disenfranchised by property requirements and laws that favored the big bourgeoisie over themselves. You may remember Shays Rebellion and the Whiskey Rebellion?
If you're looking for further reading, The Counter Revolution of 1776 is a good one.
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You're proving my point by 1856 all states had removed the property ownership requirement for whites.
Please, just the bare minium reading comprehension next time you try to engage someone.
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by 1856 all states had removed the property ownership requirement for whites.
The purpose of that was to marginalize the freed slaves and keep the working class divided. The removal of the requirement wasn't because a faction in power decided it would be nice and create a freer society, but because it gave them further power.
To quote LBJ a century later: "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
Please, just the bare minium reading comprehension next time you try to engage someone.
Don't condescend when you haven't read shit on a subject.
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Do I need to walk you through every event that happened post 1856? Women sufferage, civil rights, this is my entire contention you clod. Just go away. You are not engaging in good faith.
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Americans have experienced more freedom than those who came before.
How are Americans more free than the native people that were on the continent before Europeans arrived?
Answer: They aren't
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Ok.
You really won the morality dick measuring contest we weren't having.
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I said America was never free and you said
Americans have experienced more freedom than those who came before.
Why are your acting like you weren't clearly disagreeing with me?
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Slavery in the British Empire ended a generation before slavery ended in the US.
Sorry, but USA was founded on hypocrisy, pretty words about freedom and equality set down on paper by slave masters.
Everyone else in the world knows you get freedom by voting for it in election after election. Only Americans believe that freedom is granted by deified slave masters.
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Sorry, was your argument the British empire is more free than America?
Edit: also did you just call the gibberish that comes out my mouth flowery?
Seek help.
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All states are tyranny, agreed.
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True but if you don't have an army you'll quickly become a slave to others who do have an army
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