Jill Stein Is Killing the Green Party

I didn’t really know what the Green Party was until a few years ago. I originally thought Green meant pro-environment but it really just stands for green cash money from Daddy Vlad.
- Wasn't she cleared by the senate investigative committee for not taking funds from Russia?
  
  I'm not sure if she was or wasn't, but depending on the Congress, they may have also "cleared" the issue of SA with Brett Kavenaugh. Congress isn't exactly a trustworthy primary source.
  
  Yes.
  But people here don’t want to address that because it disrupts their narrative.
  The truth is, no matter what she did or didn’t do, the hostility would be the same because she’s not Harris.
  They get upset at anyone who isn’t pledging their vote to Harris, and that’s the real reason behind all the hate here. In fact, look at your downvotes for asking a simple question. lmao
- Is that any worse than the other parties who pay billions to daddy bibi for the privilege of sucking his cock? Honest question.
  
  As much of a problem Israel is the fact of the matter is Putin and the Russian state as a whole is well infinitely bigger. A coalition could remove Israel in an afternoon, Russia not so much.
  
  Yes.

If the green party even actually cared about the shit they purport to care about, they'd have been pro nuclear. That's all I needed to hear in order to know they were worth absolutely none of my attention.
- They also be active more than one out of every four years. You NEVER hear a word about any of them between elections. They’re spoilers. Nothing more.
  The veil is lifted finally.
  
  What might have had some efficacy as an auxiliary party is if the organization promoted specific extant primary candidates, perhaps. To assist more progressive candidates in becoming the nominees for various electoral races. AND in local elections, not JUST the big one every four years like you said!
  We've seen this work (to our detriment) with the 'tea party' -_- all i'm saying is, it pisses me off that we leave that kind of weaponry on the table when these fucking chud scum manage to pull it off.
  
  You NEVER hear a word about any of them between elections.
  Sure we do. In fact, my town voted Green into office.
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Green_politicians_who_have_held_office_in_the_United_States (thanks to @SyntaxTerror@feddit.org for the info)
  State-Level Green Party Officials (Former)
  Shane Robinson - Maryland, House, District 39 (2011-2019)
  Henry Bear - Maine, House, District 144 (2013-2019)
  Ralph Chapman - Maine, House, District 133 (2010-2019)
  Fred Smith - Arkansas, House, District 50 (2011-2015)
  Richard Carroll - Arkansas, House, District 39 (2009-2011)
  John Eder - Maine, House, District 118 (2003-2007)
  Matt Ahearn - New Jersey, General Assembly, District 38 (2002-2004)
  Audie Bock - California, State Assembly, District 16 (1999-2000)
  Current Green Party Mayors
  Peter Schwartzman - Galesburg, Illinois (2021-2025)
  Bruce Delgado - Marina, California (2008-2024)
  Emmanuel Estrada - Baldwin Park, California (2020-2024)
  Former Green Party Mayors
  John Reed - Fairfax, California
  Mike Feinstein - Santa Monica, California
  David Doonan - Greenwich, New York
  Kelley Wearvering - Cordova, Alaska
  Robb Davis - Davis, California
  Peter Gleichman - Ward, Colorado
  Jim Sullivan - Victory, New York
  Jason West - New Paltz, New York
  Current Green Party City & County Council Members
  Sylvia R. Chavez - Calipatria, California
  David Conley - Douglas County, Wisconsin
  Josiah Dean - Dufur, Oregon
  Becky Elder - Manitou Springs, Colorado
  Bob Gifford - Portage County, Wisconsin
  Renée Goddard - Fairfax, California
  David Grover - Trinidad, California
  Damon Jespersen - Newbury, Massachusetts
  John Keener - Pacifica, California
  Rebecca Kemble - Madison, Wisconsin
  Paul Pitino - Arcata, California
  Marsha A. Rummel - Madison, Wisconsin
  George P. Steeves - Southbridge, Massachusetts
  Anna Trevorrow - Portland, Maine
  Daniel Welsh - Lewisboro, New York
  Heidi Weigleitner - Dane County, Wisconsin
  Stephen Zollman - Sebastopol, California
  Former Green Party City & County Council Members
  Peter Schwartzman - Galesburg, Illinois
  George Altgelt - Laredo, Texas
  Michael Beilstein - Corvallis, Oregon
  Bruce Delgado - Marina, California
  Jessica Bradshaw - Carbondale, Illinois
  Michael Cornell - River Hill Village
  Jennifer Dotson - Ithaca, New York
  Kathleen Fitzpatrick - Mosier, Oregon
  Gail Garrett - Mount Washington, Massachusetts
  Matt Gonzalez - San Francisco, California
  Cam Gordon - Minneapolis, Minnesota
  Art Goodtimes - San Miguel County, Colorado
  Daniel Hamburg - Mendocino County, California
  Michelle Haynes - Norwood, Colorado
  Gary Hull - Sharpsburg, Maryland
  Tanya Ishikawa - Federal Heights, Colorado
  Brian Kehoe - Catskill, New York
  Jason Kirkpatrick - Arcata, California
  Mary Jo Long - Afton, New York
  Tom Mair - Grand Traverse County, Michigan
  Sarah Marsh - Fayetteville, Arkansas
  Merrily Mazza - Lafayette, Colorado
  Gayle McLaughlin - Richmond, California
  Ross Mirkarimi - San Francisco, California
  Leland Pan - Dane County, Wisconsin
  Dona Spring - Berkeley, California
  Chuck Turner - Boston, Massachusetts
  Other Green Party Local Officials (Current)
  Michael Clary - Coos County, Oregon
  Jennifer Baker - Napa Valley College, California
  Matthew Clark - San Mateo County
  Billy Gene Collins - Waterford, Connecticut
  Carl D'Amato - Waterford, Connecticut
  Daphne Dixon - Fairfield, Connecticut
  Matt Donahue - Benton County, Oregon
  Maureen Doyle - Southbridge, Massachusetts
  Andrew Frascarelli - Waterford, Connecticut
  Frank Gatti - Amherst, Massachusetts
  Michael Paul Hansen - Humboldt County, California
  Jane Jarlsberg - San Bernardino County, California
  Joshua Steele Kelly - Waterford, Connecticut
  Vincent O'Connor - Amherst, Massachusetts
  Sharron Parra - Hyampom, California
  Vahe Peroomian - Glendale Community College, California
  John Powell - Montecito, California
  Colleen Ann Reidy - Thompsonville, Connecticut
  Rebecca Rotzler - New Paltz, New York
  Leif Smith - Redding, Connecticut
  Darcy Van Ness - Waterford, Connecticut
  Baird Welch-Collins - Waterford, Connecticut
  Randy Marx - Fair Oaks Water District, Sacramento County, California
  Fred McCann - Portland Water District, Portland, Maine
  Garrett Erven - Red Wing, Minnesota
  Other Green Party Local Officials (Former)
  John Amarilios - New Canaan, Connecticut
  Korie Blyveis - Newberg Township, Michigan
  Hector Lopez - New Canaan, Connecticut
  Kim O'Connor - Hillsborough County, Florida
  Jill Stein - Lexington, Massachusetts
  Raymond C. Meyer - Lucas County Health Center, Iowa
  Amy Martenson - Napa Valley College, California
  MK Merelice - Brookline, Massachusetts
  Anna Trevorrow - Portland, Maine
- "Green" and "pro nuclear" go together like peas and carrots. Unless one flunked elementary school science class.
  
  Nah nuclear is relatively easy to deal with the waste, ublike say oil. Plus ignoring it is a legit method of dealing with the problem, worst case ya dump it in Wyoming nobody lives in Wyoming.
- They aren't? Damn shame
- Nuclear energy is the most expensive type of energy, you could have way more wind and solar energy (stored in batteries or hydrogen) for the same investment. And without waste that keeps radiating for the next millenia.
  
  Neither storage "solution" is currently adequate for fossil fuel replacement and may never be for high-density populations. Nuclear is less impactful than burning hydrocarbons or damming rivers and fearmongering about radioactive waste products isn't helpful because, again, every nuclear accident or leak to date has been less harmful than normal exhaust from coal-burning plants and riparian habitat destruction.
  If we had kept investing in an actual energy solution we would have gen-IV reactors already and the waste concerns would be even lower.
  
  Posting an extra comment to say nuclear waste is not an issue either. Here's two good videos on the topic that show through example how much it isn't an issue.
  https://youtube.com/watch?v=4aUODXeAM-k&pp=ygUXa3lsZSBoaWxsIG51Y2xlYXIgd2FzdGU%3D
  https://youtube.com/watch?v=lhHHbgIy9jU&pp=ygUXa3lsZSBoaWxsIG51Y2xlYXIgd2FzdGU%3D
  
  Nuclear is expensive because we've made it expensive. The most expensive part is bureaucracy. Running nuclear plants is cheap. Even still, the price of nuclear around the world is competitive. If you scroll down to the regional studies, nuclear looks even better. In every place except the US that has nuclear, nuclear is the second cheapest, with large-scale PV the only one higher (which doesn't price in solutions to provide baseline power, which nuclear has built in). The US has (purposefully) made nuclear appear expensive because laws have been paid for by dirty oil companies.
  Nuclear is also one of the safest and cleanest energy sources. If you include negative externalities into the cost (which is never done but should be) nuclear is amazing.

- I hate how they’ve spammed their way into turning this community into 90% conversations about irrelevant 3rd parties.
  Every post is either by them or something meant to dunk on them.
  
  This is really tough to see, especially when in other countries the other Greens are actual, viable parties.
  
  If you’re not comfortable with this community embracing diverse political viewpoints and would prefer an echo chamber that only discusses one party, you’re always welcome to start your own Lemmy community.
  Pesonally, I’m glad to see more third-party voices gaining visibility here!
  
  That's such a ridiculous claim that I bothered to count.
  There's been 4 posts about anything regarding 3rd parties out of 31 in the last 24h and that's much MORE than usual!
  Sounds like you're just hypersensitive about being reminded that the two party duopoly is only ALMOST complete 🙄
- Many of them are surprisingly silent on the matter.
  It’s refreshing.
  
  Um, I don't know about that.
- NOT VOTING FOR HERRRRRRRRR
  
  Hey! Me either! We're friends, now!
- Are we sure that that's not her secret Lemmy account? Lmao
  
  I don't think she's THAT well spoken, unfortunately.
- I’ve seen that person around. Serious cringe vibes.
  
  Right?!
- I don’t see them in the comments. They’re probably on lunch break with that linkerbaan person.
  
  What is a linkerbaan person? Context?
- Your comment about me was removed for civility.
  I'll still answer tho. I'm not voting for Jill Stein. Thank you for thinking about me so much tho!

- Fair point and solid burn. POINTS!

Jill Stein ~~Is Killing~~ killed the Green Party

Jill Stein is the latest in an interminable line of Green Party fucknuts "killing" the Green Party.
Next.

Was there anything there to kill?
- A bucket full of russian mob money.

anybody really care?
- No we don't. The green party wasn't even that alive
- Read the room bud.

So one might say:
She's killing it 🕶️
- She’s reducing it, the first and best r
- One might, but should one?

At least she's doing one good thing?
- She was a major reason Trump won over Hillary, and she is still taking more votes from democrats than republicans.
  
  Hillary was the reason Trump won over Hillary. lmao
- That’s defiantly a way to look at it.

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if you're telling me that there's a compromised candidate who isn't pursuing the stated goals of their party or the best interests of their voter base, I- I- I-'d I'd have to cock an eye at you and wonder what your agenda was fella
pure nonsense, imagine
just glad my party isn't one of those, whichever one that's convenient for the reader

Given the ridiculous amount of money being poured into anti green sentiment and lawsuits by the Dems, it seems like they're threatened.
Maybe we can have a somewhat left wing party when Dems lose again and can't blame the greens or Bernie bros or other scape goats for their own failure to represent popular policies.
- Threatened by Russian shills and spoiler campaigns by useless candidates that talk a lot and say nothing?
  Yeah.
  That’s a lot to be treated by. Especially when democrat hangs in the balance. Your lady is busted bro. The truth is out.
  Go sit down somewhere.
- Popular policies like investing into green energy, capping prescription drug prices, appropriately regulating business, helping students with the price of college, raising taxes on the wealthy and helping first time homebuyers get a house?
  
  Sure, trump did two of those, Biden has done one but promised more, and those don't touch the problems Americans actually have, like affording rent and groceries while dealing with record inflation and failing economy for all but the wealthiest. If Dems kept half their promises they'd still be 80s Republicans, but at least people wouldn't be becoming homeless at the fastest rate in US history.
- Or maybe we will just get neo-fascism and the violent persecution of left wing america.
  
  That's going to happen regardless if you keep electing liberals while thinking left wing policies are too unpopular to pass. Hitler was appointed by a liberal.
- Yep. Funny how Democrats are just as desperate as the Republicans (who always try to get rid of Libertarians) to make sure we have fewer choices to vote for.