Gunshots reportedly fired at Donald Trump rally - as former president rushed off stage

Yes, that is exactly how if feels.

How can I switch to the GOOD universe?

That's my house everyday

He was surrounded by a lot of highly trained good guys with plenty of guns, the Secret Service, and even they couldn’t stop the bad guy, only respond to him.

(I’m paraphrasing from the second season premiere of The West Wing, but the writers were dead on 24 years ago.)

He put his hand up to his ear before he went down and you can see blood on his face when Secret Service took him away. Whoever it was missed him by that much.

In the video you can see him lifting the hand to the ear after the first bang

It looks like a chunk of his ear is blown off. Fucking insane!

Nobody in the crowd was hit with anything it seemed, so I don't think he was shot. If anything, the secret service takedown probably did whatever it was. He's never going to stfu about this. Wouldn't be surprised if this was staged.

He wasn't shot. Pure publicity stunt. Same shit as WrestleMania.

More likely someone fired at him in celebration in those rallies.

Shit’s pretty unpredictable. What happens if a MAGAt retaliates and whacks Biden?

That's my gut reaction too. It's done. That fucking photo where Trump stood up and did the fist pump with the blood on his face and the American flag in the background:

https://i.headtopics.com/images/2024/7/14/timescolonist/trump-rally-shooting-is-being-investigated-as-an-trump-rally-shooting-is-being-investigated-as-an-56235AE0556FFDA67127295A88A54C8B.webp

There's no beating that. That's literally like a movie poster. Whether Biden stays or goes, I really don't think it matters now.

Also as an aside, I don't mean this as a compliment to Trump. I think he's a raging piece of shit and I hope he loses. But it's elections are all about perception and I really don't see Biden doing anything to top this.

Absolutely it will. Fuck.

From abroad, for the love of everything please go vote. Everything in the US seems to leak out and global warming is well, global.

Sounds pretty dramatic. With the new cycle the way it is, it will be forgotten in a month.

Ah yes, I wanted to vote blue, but now that the felon's ear got shot, I'll vote for the fashists.

This is US politics and it makes sense.

I don't see it, the lines have been firmly drawn for years. The maga crowd will vote for him regardless of anything and the rest of us wouldn't piss on him to put out a fire.

It's horrifying that our best hope is that a MAGA nutter kills Biden in retaliation and Harris wins in a landslide because of it.

If only he were a martyr from this, but he survived. You have to die to be a martyr.

He'll make himself into one if they're not fast enough.

Stop saying "he'll be a martyr."

This gets touted any time any consequence could come to him. Saying this makes it a lose lose situation. Either we let him get away and do whatever or "he's a martyr." No. He reaps whatever consequences come to him for his actions. It shouldn't come as an assassination, but he has to have some consequence for what he does.

Radicalize. Every time.

Trump's going to milk him being a victim and come out looking like he's super tough and cheated death. Nothing could have been better for the Trump campaign than a failed assassination attempt in which Trump was hit and survived practically fine. I think things are about to get pretty bad. This is terrible terrible news for the country.

May you live in interesting times.

Come on, bruh. He’s their god king.

interesting more insane

Well, public rallies will be a no-no.

He should've practiced more

A conservative shooting at Biden would end up giving the keynote at CPAC.

I saw a video where they panned to the right, and it looked like a hydraulic line on a nearby lift was hit.

Assassinating problematic politicians that want to be a king is sort of the point of the 2nd amendment.

(I hate the source, F this guy) but here’s him being ushered off the stage after… https://x.com/stillgray/status/1812250467071885730

Edit: his base is going to be insanely fired up now. I’m genuinely scared about what’s going to happen now. I can see it already “the deep state tried to stop him and God saved Trump!” ugh.

You know what's sad about this?

If the roles were reversed, Trump would be offering the shooter a posthumous pardon and probably a medal. And no, I'm not joking. Trump would never be seen giving someone else the respect he demands from others.

Their potato chips and beer have gone up a lot in the past few years, therefore we were in the economic golden age under Trump. Life is pretty simple for some people.

Well that certainly blows up any argument it was staged. You don't fake shoot a real bullet past your fake targets head.

That isolated tweet with the pic doesn’t claim to be from NYT or a NYT photographer. I’ve never heard of this “spectator index”. Here is the AP collection of photos from the event.

If I do assume that’s a bullet, let’s test if the size of the streak makes sense. A bullet travels at about 750m/s. That streak (using Trump’s head for scale) is about 50cm long, or 1/2 meter. A 750 m/s bullet travels 1/2 meter in 1/1500 seconds. When you consider projection effects (we might not be looking with a line-of-sight perpendicular to the bullet’s trajectory), we expect the length and time used in my above calculations to be lower bounds, with the true answer probably being within about a factor of 3 of that bound. This means that this image only makes sense as a bullet if the shutter speed is between 1/1500 and 1/500 seconds. That lines up with this website’s recommendation of 1/1000 second exposure time for bright outdoor shots.

Either a very good fake that considered the kinematics, or this is a real image of the bullet.

Is it that feeling of being in the lead of up of the scary times?

I feel it in my gut

Everything is fine.

Who knows. Someone that would take it upon themselves to do something like this could have all kinds of flawed thought processes, as well as mental illness.

I mean, the Republicans have a habit of constantly casting each other out for various forms of apostasy, real or imagined, and declaring the apostate a "RINO". With the way they talk about non-Republicans, that unperson is then a lower lifeform not worthy of empathy...if that's the kind of thing that led to this, it wouldn't be that surprising, I guess. I mean, look at how they view Liz Cheney. Liz. Cheney.

Like the founding fathers would have wanted

CNN: shooter is dead and one bystander is dead as well.

The world needs thinner teleprompter screens.

Honestly, this seems more likely than what he's saying. The angle he was standing at didn't seem likely that he would have been hit unless someone was in the stands behind him, which didn't seem like the case from the video.

Thanks

You can’t arbitrate with fascism? Who knew? History. History knows.

The guy who shot Reagan was trying to impress Jodie Foster. It wouldn’t be unprecedented if it was motivated by something bizarre.

There's a name and photos floating around now of this person on Twitter but it's not confirmed. I won't post it here.

Fingerprint search found him on crime database?

Tbh that's the most characteristic thing about Trump. Saying things so outrageously stupid, so far outside common sense and so detached from reality that people end up thinking about them more than they should.

seriously, at this point the Democrats have got to do something bold. the combined trajectories of this election and the country are not promising.

edit to say... my bold move would be:

• biden steps aside (powerful good of the country speech and all that - huge opportunity to remind everyone what a shitbag trump is)
• kamala sanctions this process by somehow transitioning funds to a diff general account.
• dems flood the news cycle with a mini primary (flash campaign and debates) all the way up to the convention with a diverse selection of candidates... showcase the big tent and range of ideas.

don't know how they deal with delegate votes for a nominee, but the dems have to take over the news cycle and keep the focus on them with at least the veneer of something vagely democratic and energizing, otherwise I think we get king klepto-fascist.

this is likely a pipe dream and I am going to shut up now.

No they don't

I don't think any of them have a problem, pretty sure they are magas and would love nothing more.

https://www.vox.com/23274533/secret-service-text-messages-january-6

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/secret-service-deleted-text-messages-jan-6-previous-day-homeland-secur-rcna38332

Trump is just a symptom. There's even more deranged people coming up behind him.

TBF, an earlier version of a New York Post story mentioned it was thought to be a BB gun, so....

More likely a user of SSRIs.