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Please tell me there is a high-quality analogue to this knife

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(Update II) This was 100% a bootleg, and I just got the real one here. The materials feel maybe 1% better, but other than that it's night and day. The blade actually has an edge that will cut paper rather than tear it, though it's not crazy sharp. The blade opens smooth and easy with basically no blade play. There is actually a tip-up clip that carries insanely deep, though I really wish it didn't so I could deploy with a higher position on the handle**. It also isn't insanely over-tight like a lot of the Kershaw wave knives (this made them catch on the pocket, making deployment more difficult). The liner lock actually seats VERY securely, while being easy to manually disengage. The wave feature is actually more aggressive than the bootleg without producing any snagging issues. The sheer length of the blade is more of an issue for deploying than anything else, but even that just a minor gripe imo. Note that there is a chip taken out of the base of the blade, but it looks like this was done to improve liner lock mating.

**After practicing my draw a few more times, the clip depth really is a problem for a knife this size. There just isn't a good way to get the level of purchase I want on the handle, and the bottom really doesn't have enough retention to justify that design choice.

(Update) Turns out this was (probably) a cheap knock-off of an identical and slightly more expensive knife on Amazon. I'm exchanging them and will update on how that does, but won't post a link unless it holds up better.

This is a VERY cheaply built knife, so much so that it's barely worth keeping, let alone carrying. There's not even a pocket clip on it.

BUT, this combination of form and features is EXACTLY what I've been looking for (with a tip-up clip, that is) in a daily carry folder. The handle and finger protection is there, the blade and handle length fit a perfect middle ground for fighting and practicality, it even has a fuckin Emerson style wave that they don't even bother advertising.

Unlike most wave openers, this one is set VERY far back, is slightly oversized, and doesn't have anything forward of it (discs, pegs, etc) to prohibit getting your full blade length.

So if this wasn't so GODDAMN TRASH, I would call it perfect. I haven't seen anything yet, but if there is a brand-name, high(er)-quality knife that is basically this, PLEASE let me know.

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  • Try searching for Darrel Ralph Madd Maxx. The general design seems pretty close to what you want. Over the years, there have been versions with just about every type of blade, not just the common double-edged dagger. I have one with a clip point blade and another with a recurve.

    • Also, the classic Madd Maxx has a 5.5" blade, but they've been made in lengths from under 4" up to 7.5"

  • I'm a day late and a dollar short, here, but I don't know how much cross-pollination there is between comms just at the moment, so here it is anyway.

    OP's knife is indeed a knockoff of the HOKC Finka-C. As previously threatened and due to the terms and conditions of my usual brand of insanity, I bought one and explored it in some considerable detail in a post here:

    https://lemmy.world/post/24289838

  • Closest I've seen it the cold steel Luzon, but it lacks the wave opener.

    Kershaw has models with that, but lack pretty much everything else that you mentioned.

    Fwiw, it isn't a good fighting design, though. At best it's okay. It's also kinda meh for day to day stuff, but since that stuff is design agnostic for most of that, it isn't a big factor.

    Being real, while you sure as hell can't trust it actually being d2, there's a decent chance that exact knife would handle normal tasks as well as anything from a name brand. The lack of a clip sucks, but niteize does have an adhesive backed clip that does fine.

    Or did you already get one and the quality is lacking for sure?

    I'll scan some of the knife retailers later and see what I can find though

    • They're cheap, so I bought one just to try it. I can confirm that it's a cheap, Chinese made knife. The liner lock barely works, the hinge comes loose out of the box, the handles feel 3d printed, etc. And I've seen the Luzon, but it's so ridiculously big and stupid looking that I'd rather just carry a Kabar at that point.

      Obviously this design is the epitome of fighting knives, but as an edc, general use, pocket knife, I believe this concept is about as good as you're going to get for defensive use. I'm in the thrusting-over-cutting camp right now, if that wasn't apparent. So long, plain edged blades with no stupid gimmicks or "features" to get in the way, which even Emerson Waves lack in with the disc opener and sub-4" blades (no idea why every "defense" knife is fucking 3" or shorter).

      • I mean, I trained with knives. For the better part of twenty years. It's kinda my thing.

        Which isn't really important, I guess; I ain't your teacher :)

        But it sucks that it sucks. It really is a damn nice looking design.

        I didn't find anything that really hit all the right buttons to match it. It always surprises me when that happens since most of the no name Chinese factories don't do original designs. I had one of those crappy, cheap ones a while back that was like that, it's frustrating.

        However, if you're interested, I can suggest a few folders that are viable for knife combatives, with a focus on thrusting, if you can provide a budget. There's a decent amount of them out there. If your location allows assisted opening or autos, there's even more.

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