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Iheartcheese @lemmy.world

8mo ago

Thoughts on terrorism

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Sisko didn't have the privilege of being a peace time captain. He had to be at the center of a war between galaxies with everything at stake. He didn't have a choice how agents he may have protected acted. he didn't command, direct, or approve of their methods. He only benifited, and protected, with disgust and grief for the values he once held dear. But all he had then was the list of all those lost, and the precise knowledge that losing the war, ment total destruction to everything and everyone he cared about. It would be future generations that would judge him, no one who marched through the mud along side him would.
- He literally used quark's nephew as extortion leverage in the first episode.
  
  To be fair, that's probably expected in Ferengi custom
- a war between galaxies
  Quadrants of the same galaxy.
  Just saying.
  
  Yeah I wasn't sure if that the best terminology.
- He didn't command, direct, or approve of any of their methods. He only benefited, and protected, with disgust and grief for the values he once held dear.
  So… I lied. I cheated. I bribed men to cover the crimes of other men. I am an accessory to murder. But the most damning thing of all… I think I can live with it. And if I had to do it all over again, I would. Garak was right about one thing, a guilty conscience is a small price to pay for the safety of the Alpha Quadrant. So I will learn to live with it. Because I can live with it. I can live with it… Computer, erase that entire personal log.
  Truly disgusted and grief stricken.
  
  Well, he does imply he has a guilty conscience; he's just also saying he can live with it.
- Well put. There were still those that judged his choices/actions, but then, those detractors likely would have made radically different and likely detrimental decisions in the name of peace.
- "It's easy to be a saint in paradise."
- no one who marched through the mud along side him would.
  You had me until this line.
  Ain't no mud in space. Ain't no mud ever on starfleet uniforms.
  I bet if anyone even wanted to SEE mud in the Star Trek universe they would need a team of engineers to craft some in a replicator.
  
  Laforge and that romulan were covered in mud after they got trapped on that planet
  
  Where does the poop go
  
  What about Henry Mudd?

- A CHALLENGER APPROACHES!
  
  Freedom. Fighter.
- I require all officers to attend mandatory terrorism classes.
  (I've never watched star trek and Im basing my assumption of this ladys' attitude towards terrorism among her ranking officers off the animosity this community has towards her. And she looks like a "keep your enemies closer" type of person)
  
  Half of Janeway's (the lady above) crew on Voyager were members of the Maquis before they joined her. The Maquis were freedom fighters in the resistance against the Cardassian occupation/colonization in the demilitarized zone. The Cardassians (brutal, planet-hungry, militaristic race) considered them terrorists, the Federation considered them dangerous traitors. Voyager was on a mission to catch the group of Maquis under Chakotay's command on the Valjean (named for the Les Miserables character imprisoned for a just crime) when both ships got tossed 75 years journey from home. The two captains decided to merge their crews and Chakotay became Janeway's first officer after Chakotay sacrificed his ship to save members of both crews.
  People have (light hearted) animosity toward Janeway mainly because she had to make a hard decision when two crew members got merged into one in a transporter accident. The resulting person was a new being who wanted to live, but keeping him alive would mean sacrificing the two original people. She also fucked around with the timeline so much that one of the time cops went insane trying to fix the issues she was continuously creating. And she's a bit cranky when she doesn't get any coffee.
  
  It's been a while since I've watched voy, but their whole deal was being stranded 75 years travel away from home and attempting to keep their shit together while trying to get home with little to no help. Some decisions had to be made.
  I think most of the animosity is facetious. She's an awesome captain.

Poison a planet on Monday because all the reports were in on time. Friday there was a pizza party in ops because we had gone 5 days without a holosuite malfunction. Then on Saturday we assassinated a Romulan Senator as a treat for Garak's birthday.
- "I think it's time for me to become the villain."
  
  (Quote/gif from 2 different episodes, but couldn't find one of the quote and this works better, I think.)
  
  This gif is super captivating

Some tend to take advantage of the offer.

Ro Laren though
- Well, he didn't speak to her again for like 30 years...

“OMG! Both sides are the same”

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