When Trump visits a black church

Either it was all white people, or the white people and black people wouldn’t sit together. I don’t know which is worse.
- If I recall from the articles about this event. The pastor, who is black, invited Trump. In a funny twist as well, the former mayor of Detroit (also black) was there to speak about how great Trump is. Which is fine, except that Trump pardoned him at the end of his presidency because the man was convicted and guilty of: Obstruction of justice (x2), assault of a police officer, racketeering, tax evasion, extortion, mail fraud.
  However even at the event that Kilpatrick was attending with Trump, while singing his praises, didn’t endorse him.
  
  Amen
- The normal parishioners wouldn't come because of the Trump attendance so his faithful filled out the crowd (meaning, were the entire crowd) to help feed his misrepresentation of the event. The church was so full. So full. And everyone there loved me, I can tell you that.
  (Not a quote, just a likely facsimile.)
  Regardless, I'm white and I would refuse to sit among a crowd of carpetbagging Trumpers who showed up to displace me from my own church (if I went to church), I sure wouldn't do so if I were black.

Isn't it normal etiquette to take off the hat in a church?
- None of the people wearing a hat in that picture would be able to spell etiquette without a K. They love their Ks.
  
  I like a good multilayered burn
- Bro they already took off their white hoods in the house of God. Give them a break.
- not really
  Traditionally, men should remove their hats during prayers or hymns, whereas women might choose to keep their decorative hats on. However, this practice can vary greatly depending on the denomination and local customs. Observing other attendees and being aware of the norms can help you navigate this aspect with grace. src
  given this wasn’t even a service, but just using the space as a venue, i will say that the hats are the least disgusting thing happening in the image
- Not if the hat wearer bears the mark of the devil on their forehead
  
  Not if the hat wearer bears the mark of the devil on their forehead
  We don't need to see the MAGA mark on their forehead to know its there. The hat on top of it already says MAGA.
- Normal for them. His staff used to sit with their bare feet on the couches in the oval office.
  
  I have no love for his staff, but why is sitting on a couch with your shoes off bad, especially in a high-stress environment?
- Not if you worship a false-idol of a man.
- 99% of "normal etiquette" is just a bunch of outdated rules that make no sense. If even the "return to tradition" crowd is starting to feel comfortable wearing hats to church, it may be a sign that nature is healing.
  
  I still see the tradition of men not wearing hats in church. However the women having to wear hats thing is gradually fading. Basically everyone who does it chooses to as a form of obedience

I'm sorry but should a church housing a political rally and supporting a political figure not be all sorts of illegal if theyre tax exempt?
- The claim was that it was a roundtable discussion that Trump was a part of.
  But of course, every Trump public appearance is a Trump rally.
  
  A claim that isn't true and made knowingly is called a lie.
  But also any time his lips move and words are produced, they are also called lies.
- Only if a Dem does it.

- TBH the less I hear about Trump aside from his prison sentence, the better. He's not POTUS, there are real issues to talk about.
- Wait what's up with the 88 thing
  
  H is the 8th letter of the alphabet. So 88 is a common dog wistle for neo-nazis and white supremacists to say "heil hitler".
  
  It's a secret-ish Nazi/neonazi sign. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Words
- What media companies are you talking about? You mention there are some righteous ones but they're too few and far between. All of the other ones are owned by like 5 right wing billionaires. Those few and far between ones are all we have.
- It’s pretty interesting how you somehow turned this into a both sides hyperbole.
  So you go on this rant about how mainstream media has assisted the slide into fascism, how Democrats will be the savior or free speech and ethical journalism.
  I seem to have missed what the DNC have done to fight back against this slide into fascism for the past 50 years. In fact they actively helped Trump get elected because he’d be easier to beat.
  Can you explain what Democratic leaderships plan is to right the list and get this country functioning again?
  
  How do you mentally take rage about the current state of journalism actively ignoring and encouraging Republicans bad behavior to mean "both sides"?
  
  And here you come, saying they are both bad and we shouldn't concentrate on Trump and instead "what about the democrats!"

the reporting on this could be better which sucks because it’s obvious it’s going to be memeified for months now
was this actually a church sponsored event or was it just being hosted in the building as a venue?
not coming at this with any assumptions or narratives i just wish there was more reliable original data than some twitter links i can’t look at without an account :/
- The pastor agreed to it after being contacted by the trump campaign. here with the pastor's explanation
  
  ugh bless you thanks so much
  edit, my take: wow that pastor seems like an upstanding guy and i would be nervous for his decision if i didn’t have hindsight and see it played out in a way that clearly only showed his guest’s hypocrisy.
  
  It's still pretty damned telling no black people came to their own church to hear him talk.

I'm doubt the church is real, because I got no reports of Trump instantly burning to ash the moment he set foot in it.
- The church is definitely real. God on the other hand...
  
  So you want god to do the work, that you're supposed to do? Do we live in a democracy or a theocracy?

Wait is this real or a meme
- Yes.

I definitely would rather be trapped with a bear.
- As a dude, I'm starting to understand the analogy...

This is the best possible outcome we can hope for considering his last visit to a church... Which isn't saying much. 100% less teargas this time!

He thought it could have been a chance to hear the voice of the marginalized. He apparently hasn't heard a trump interview or debatr before.

What "black"?
- The parishioners are supposed to be but all these white people REPLACED THEM.
  
  This must be the "replacment" the rightwingers are always talking about.
  edit: a letter
  
  but all these white people REPLACED THEM.
  See, white replacement in action! /s
- He must have meant their hearts. A crusted crumbling charcoal heart.

Source?
- https://x.com/McNamaraWDET/status/1802092715825647735
  Russ McNamara is the Detroit reporter mentioned.
  
  Lol I love that the only black guy apparently in the audience was this guy

I don’t want these people to be in charge of the country. Is that wrong?

Republicans are full of hate and lies.

Best video I could find. Absolutely not sure about the source. I don't have Instagram so I can't verify anything but looks legit.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8QHQVuMW2b/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

He meant black as in its painted black not that it's predominantly attended by black people.

Oh, wrong kind of black church, I was trying to figure if he was going to a branch of the satanic temple or what was going on here...
- The Satanic Temple come off as solid Democrats if not anarchocommunists or something. If it was a Satanic house of worship, it could possibly be the Church Of Satan (who, at least in Anton LaVey’s time, were dominance-oriented Ayn Rand assholes philosophically indistinguishable from today’s Republican Christianity), or if they’ve mellowed in their old age, the Order of Nine Angles (who, conveniently, are also neo-Nazis).
  
  The Satanic Temple stands against pretty much everything Trump and his cultists stand for, as well as the big money Democrat establishment.
  Definitely not ancoms.
  
  Yeah, I forget there are two distinct terms for very different orgs, just more a whimsical thought of some goth cathedral and black sacraments thing.

Well, I can see many people in there who are not perfect representatives of the Arian Race (people whose hair is not blond enough or whose eyes are brown rather than blue), so they should be counted as black, thus making this a mixed race audience, most of which are black.
/s

Source on this?

It’s like where’s Waldo but I think I see three.

Is that lincoln in the back there?

Funny if you to believe any of these clowns have seriously been in a church before.
- Why?
  Some of the worst people I've ever known were from when I had to go.
  
  Trump people only "identify as religious" they aren't the terrible people that traditional attend and hate. Lol I'm sure there is a slight overlap in the Venn Diagram.
- "In the ordinary moral universe, the good will do the best they can, the worst will do the worst they can, but if you want to make good people do wicked things, you’ll need religion."
  
  Problem is that if you even read the Gospel of Luke or even Matthew alone, it basically already contradicts a lot of Trumpian rhetoric

I mean just because the church is black - it might have be a satanist church and that's why they painted it black - doesn't mean that the people inside have to be black.
- I am wondering if the parish at this church is majority white normally anyway. I had a friend in high school whose family went to the ~~evangelical~~ baptist church in town and they were white. He invited me one time, and I was surprised that there was only about 3 black people in attendance. I expected it to be mostly black people because that's how this denomination has been presented and stereotyped in media.
  E: wrong name.
  
  What media? There are non-denominational evangelical churches that are predominantly * one race, some are a fair mix.
  Also, what is up with the red shirt guy?
  
  If you look at the photos of the church at other times, you see a whopping TWO white people ... total ... and it appears they're with their spouses and mixed race kiddos.
  
  I usually stereotype Pentecostals as being black 😂 When white people try to be Pentecostal, it usually ends up cringe.