Tesla’s Sales in Europe Fall to a 15-Month Low

High interest rate,
Competition starts to offer decent electric car
People who can afford a fancy car already got one
Musk behaves like a fascists
Not a surprise
- Also antagonizing the local populace by making backroom doors to bypass restrictions for their factory in germany.
  
  Circumventing the Swedish labour model by refusing to talk to unions, stealing money from workers that wish to engage with strikes, and bringing in foreign labour force to circumvent union blockades.
- Given how high fascist parties like AfD, RN and the Brothers Of Italy are riding in the polls, you’d expect some of the glow to rub off on Tesla and boost their sales, but Musk doesn’t even have the soft skills to pull that off.
  
  The real fascists don't want to drive electric, and their voters usually can't afford them.
  
  The people that agree with Musk, think climate change is fake and that if it were real electric cars would polute more than ice cars.

I think it's Musk's behaviour that is the most off-putting to potential buyers. That idiot really needs to be replaced, otherwise the company will fail.
- Yeah agreed but the board are sycophants, so he’s not going anywhere. Tesla will fail, by recent events much quicker than people may have expected.
  It’s a shame, but their management went bad. It happens. A lot, really.
  
  The board might get a kick up the butt by lawsuits from shareholders soon. When it comes to protecting the interests of rich people, the US legal system might be effective for a change.

Teslas are badly made, with good specs. The issue is that you can buy a well made EV with similar specs for less nowadays. Musk doing what he does, does not help. The smart move for businessmen is to stay out of politics as long as it does not effect them.

Love EVs, hate Musk... not sure how to feel :-/
- Just because Tesla sales are down, doesn’t mean EV sales are down.
  
  Yeah, but they are...

The only edge Tesla has is the software stack. All the rest is meh. But it is kind of amazing that traditional carmakers are still struggling to catch up on the software front. To be honest, the whole auto industry is heading in a very bad direction, where they think of the car as a way to harvest data of their customers and to introduce their SaaS offerings
- We've got an Tesla and an Volkswagen ID3. Tesla's charging planning is pretty good. Volkswagen's driving assistants are vastly superior to Tesla's (despite not being oversold as "autonomous driving").
  IIRC, the first robotaxis are operated by companies owned by Google and General Motors, and the only car that has a licence for fully autonomous driving in Germany (up to 60 km/h, only on Autobahn) is a Mercedes.
  No, Tesla's autonomous driving is not cutting edge.
  
  up to 60 km/h, only on Autobahn
  Huh, how does that go together? Aren't you supposed to go at least 80 or something on an autobahn?
  
  Up to 60 km/h on the autobahn
  Does not compute
  You mean 160?
  
  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought FSD wasn't available in Europe until basically last month, and even then it's still pending some regulatory hurdles. So you're comparing VW's lane keeping tech to Tesla's most basic TACC (autopilot) right?
  
  I am talking about the infotainment system, and the OTA update functionality.
- Honestly I'm pretty happy with the software stack in my Volvo. But then again it's basically stock Android.
- That and the supercharger network, right?
  
  Only in North America. Europe has quite a few competing charging networks, and cars can work on all of them because of EU standardisation. The superchargers are typically more expensive compared to the others.