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Turd Ferg @sh.itjust.works

9mo ago

Helldivers 2 PSN Account Insanity... Did we REALLY Win?

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Not really.
They're waiving the requirement for this game, the upcoming Ghost of Tsushima still requires a PSN account to play the multiplayer DLC and we don't know what the actually no requirement for PSN on Helldivers 2 is yet. My guess is that while we don't have to sign up, cross play will be disabled, which will of course hurt PSN players more than PC players.
I have no confidence in Sony or any AAA publisher to do the right thing when executives with MBA's and shareholder profits tied to their bonuses are involved but I'll take a win if for this one little battle, the consumers won out.
- why would cross play be disabled?
  
  Just a guess with Sony executives would try to save face and exert some perceived control over their PSN ecosystem.
  
  Most likely because Sony wouldn't have any recourse to take action (e.g.: ban) any players that are violating terms of use that PSN players are required to agree to (obvious examples would be harassment / offensive language that most services will minimally voice/chat ban for).

We haven't won until the region sales restrictions implementation to avoid legal issues of imposing PSN is rolled back. Fellow divers got refunds, we haven't won until everyone can return to diving.
As far as I'm concerned people are far too eager to call this a win and take Sony at their word without actually caring about the result.
To head off obvious responses Steam doesn't impose restrictions on their own, the publisher is in control on sales and it takes no time at all for Steam to update. So why hasn't Sony done this trivial act already? Because they'll try this again later when they legally can.
- It'd be cool if yall could ask them to remove the rootkit too, but IK the average helldiver player is already too stupid to care about that issue.
  
  Unfortunately that's just the way the industry is going. They'd rather just have overreach and excessive power than deal with the back and forth fight of countering hackers and cheats. I understand why they'd go that way, it's disappointing and concerning, but it's becoming more and more common.
  You could run such games on a separate machine (provided you had the funds), but that's a big buy in for a single game.
  Different people have different tolerances or are ignorant, not stupid. Maybe don't be so condescending to people and you'd get better responses.

Maybe? The battle? It seems so. The war? Answer cloudy. Try again later.

TLDW? Did we win?
- Yeah, for once.

I don't even play Helldivers but all of this drama made the weekend interesting
- It renewed my avoidance of Live Service games.

Video is private, can't watch.
- IDK why that happened. Im speaking with levelcap to see why it went private. Could be something juicy or just a copyright claim.
- Probably copyright claim

Profit incentive wins the day again! Although there are times even it doesn't seem to.

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Only a fool blinded by shiny propaganda would even dare to hope so.
- Not sure why the downvotes, seems a fair statement to me.
  
  The irony has layers. Sad to see, and I should've anticipated it, but... I still had hope for the species, I guess? Ho hum. Back to inevitability, I suppose.
- Sony likely won't try a blanket requirement again, however, they could try to do some kind of stealthy rollout, where non PSN players just get more and restricted to annoy them into signing up for PSN.

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