The little detail the nazis always never tell you is that social credit is for businesses, not individuals. Also that how they frame "donations to the communist party" as a way to increase your score as being an evil trick when really just their way of saying "we like when you pay your taxes"
Even if social credit was as bad as it's misrepresented as, it still wouldn't be anywhere near as fundamentally racist and exploitative as the capitalist credit system is, where your score is based purely on how much a few oligarchs feel they can get away with fucking you over.
Basically there's some opaque formula companies use to figure out your score based on how often you use your credit cars/take out loans, how regularly you repay them, etc. This in turn affects your ability to get loans. Like if you want to buy a house or a car, they'll check your credit score, and if it's not high enough then they won't float you, etc.
Yogthos answer is great, To add more context, and be a bit more negative... the credit score effectively incentivises spending a lot of money and taking out a lot of loans, and by taking out a lot of money and by paying them off, you get better credit, which means only the people who can take on big loans and pay them off get better credit. Basically only rich people have good credit, which means basically only rich people can buy houses and cars and things like that. It perpetuates a cycle for the rich getting richer and the poor staying poor.
Remember, in America, houses are an investment. You can use them to collect rent and, in general, line should go up, so your investment will gain in value over time on average.
This isn’t entirely true. A large part of a credit score is the age of revolving credit accounts. So you can get a very high score but just having a credit card with a $200 a month limit and paying it off each month on time. By year 2 your score should be very strong.
Or take out a higher limit card and just pay all your bills with it.
You don’t need massive loans or multiple accounts.
To expand on what Yogthos and RedClouds already said, the U.S. "consumer credit" system is also, effectively, mandatory participation from birth and you don't ever get a choice in it later on. There are multiple private agencies who track and maintain records of U.S. citizens' credit history. A typical person here will do business or apply for jobs at many companies over their lifetime which will check these credit histories and/or submit that person's payment records to the agencies as part of the business (like mobile phone service contracts, credit cards and car loans, corporate landleeches and your monthly rent history, etc. etc.).
I think the way it works is, the first time you do business with a place that reports to credit agencies when you turn 18 or whatever, your identifying info is sent over and your personal credit history begins. It's like having an account created on your behalf at a shady, unaccountable business from which your data can't and won't ever be purged (bonus: your personal info has a good chance of getting stolen from said agencies and sold on TOR forums every few years or so).
If a credit check is part of the employment process at some job, their HR department is using it to determine how responsible and trustworthy an applicant is expected to be. Banks and finance jobs always do this as well as other non-finance but high level jobs. Someone with large amounts of current debt or history of missing payments on rent won't get hired at such jobs because they're considered bad with money and desperate or irresponsible, a liability for theft and embezzlement as the employer would see it. Same principle when applying for places to live, low credit score or red marks in payment history = no housing for you.
The system has a bunch of stupid guidelines for maintaining a high 'credit score' that are taught as sage life advice in a lot of high school, home economics classes here, probably because this shit is so deeply ingrained in every aspect of life that it's inescapable. That 'credit score' is a three-digit number ranging from about 500 to 850, it's often listed with some minimum required score on housing applications and similar, it is used as a quick judgment on your history of borrowing from and repaying capitalist entities, higher number being better. It's calculated by a an algorithm and nobody knows what the algorithm is because it's an industry secret. The score is updated regularly and we can get a free copy once per year of everything on our personal credit reports from each of the three "main" credit agencies, if we request one.
Unless you're so wealthy you can buy everything with cash, having no credit history at all or a bad credit history can significantly impact your life comfort and ability to find housing, so we are forced to play this fucked up game.
I remember seeing an infographic and one of the worst offenses under China's social credit system was cheating in a video game. CHEATING IN A VIDEO GAME. LMAO!
The existing social credit blacklists use these numbers, as do almost all activities in China. But these codes are not scores or rankings
Instead, individuals or companies are blacklisted for specific, relatively serious offenses like fraud and excessive pollution that would generally be offenses anywhere. To be sure, China does regulate speech, association, and other civil rights in ways that many disagree with, and the use of the social credit system to further curtail such rights deserves monitoring.
At least Americans get to own their land. In China you don't own the land. Just the building sitting on top. Also you start paying for the mortgage before the building is finished....... IF it finishes.
Yes yes, all buildings in China are made of cardboard and entire cities collapse overnight! It's true! I work with the CI- I mean a trusted source, like RFA!
On a side note, I'm pretty sure not even RFA would say something as obviously false as this, but I guess their propaganda knows no bounds.
Their favourite part of the job is probably knowing that they can make up some stupid shit, then libs will run with it, making up even stupider shit themselves, and then believing the things they just made up.
As a Chinese person myself and have invested my own money in China, they can take away your investment without repercussions and pay you a tiny fraction of the value they take from you.
Plus, the amount of bribes needed to get transactions made is just relentless. Everyone from the fucking guy inspecting the factory to the guy stamping my deed. Everyone needed to get their beaks wet.
All my investments are in America and Taiwan. Never need to pay a single bribe.
Americans own their own land? I thought that a lot of them are in spiralling home loan debts( among other debts) for most of their lives, and the majority of the rest are renting, and can't even dream of even owning property. Not the rich, of course.
That's not even taking into account the massive homeless population that the US criminalises and leaves to fend for themselves and just die.
So...how is that better than being provided the security of housing that China is doing?
Yes, I own the land I buy. The building that sits on it.
I was fortunate enough to have government support for my initial home purchase and since then my investment portfolio has increased ever since. Can't say for others, but I also invested money early on in life in opposed to spending on stupid shit.
The two countries have different government dynamics. One is freedom to prosper and also freedom to fail. While the other is no freedom but there is the golden contract.
As for the "housing security" that you're talking about. Are you talking about the housing collapse that is currently happening or the shoddy government homes defunded by bribes that the locals are calling tofu homes?
This is a misconception bordering on a fucking lie. For all intents and purposes, in China you do own the land you purchase. The 70 year lease is mostly a formality. The government owns all the land legally speaking, much the same as literally any other country on Earth. Regardless of what a piece of paper says, the land is yours. The 70 year lease is just so the government can keep tabs on all the land in the country for different purposes, such as organization, urban planning, taxation, regulating land use and waste, and the state will compensate you for more than your home is worth, if the land is required for development, ala imminent domain.
Ironic that despite officially being a lease, in China you own your land more than you do in the U.S., which is a blanket nightmarish patchwork of banks and home owners associations.
My family had a factory in Chengdu with a 50 year lease + a 50 year option.
A few years in they decided they wanted to expand the road and cut my family's factory in half. The warehouse was literally butt up against the highway. Then a few years after they completed the road they decided to expand it again and took the entire land it was sitting on.
They gave us a tiny fraction on justthe land we "owned". Not even accounting for the upgrades and improvements made to the facilities. We also lost all the bribe money we had to pay to buy this factory in the first place.
They completely ruined my family and our investment. It's been 20 years and we still haven't fully recovered.