Genocide Joe approves the transfer of 1,800 MK84 2,000-pound bombs and 500 MK82 500-pound bombs alongside 25 F-35A fighter jets to Israel - Washington Post
U.S. signs off on more bombs, warplanes for Israel
So glad to know he's trying his hardest to get our votes; hey libs, keep trying to convince tons and tons of people to change their minds instead of this one geriatric, totally sensible choice and a sign of democracy working as intended.
nIcE tRy vLaD
I hope nobody is distracted by him barely pandering to the queer community while this goes on. This is what Biden really stands for
At least Biden still feel the need to pander to the LGBT community and other minorities, which means he can still be made to compromise on certain issues. With Trump it’s straight up fascism.
Just on this reasoning alone, Biden’s got my vote, considering that Trump will still do the genocide anyway, if not worse.
I don’t understand why Hexbears think that voting for Biden means supporting his policies. It is entirely possible to strategically vote to protect the lives of minorities from being endangered. If we can buy 4 more years of time to organize while protecting minority lives, then that’s a bargain I am willing to make, no matter how repulsive Biden’s genocide is to me. I don’t understand the willingness to gamble with accelerationism.
The American electoral system is designed to punish those who do not toe the line, so we’re only going to get punished if we do not at least pretend to “play by the rules”. There is nothing you can do to change that except for a revolution, and until we have the strength and numbers to do so, we have to play by the rules. If Trump wins, then any socialist project is dead in the water.
(Note: I am not American so I can’t actually vote, but you get the point.)
Not a great bit tbh
I don’t understand why Hexbears think that voting for Biden means supporting his policies. It is entirely possible to strategically vote to protect the lives of minorities from being endangered
Except voting for Biden is not strategically voting "to protect the lives of minorities from being endangered" considering the fact Biden has Trump beat on deportations, police funding, prosecution of minority protest/civil rights groups; and normalizing genocide by VOTING for the man who is committing it definitely doesn't protect Muslims and Arabs,
Who's left, queer people who he left to the right-wing mass harassment wolves during the last four years because he was comfortably in power? Like these are basic facts the bluemagas refuse to digest
Your failure of analysis lies in the fact you don't recognize that Biden is the accelertionist candidate, while Trump's incompetence, unpopularity and animosity he receives from the democratic wing of capital is the far safer bet in terms of harm reduction
Right now capital is united, with Trump in office Dems are gonna have an impossible task of going along with him after the apocalyptic anti-trump narrative they've seeded the media with, it's in that disconnect just like after 2016 the new left can actually grow and organize
It's easier to oppose Trump than Biden, and for that reason alone minorities like me want to see the dems eat shit
I don’t understand why Hexbears think that voting for Biden means supporting his policies
Are you fucking serious
(Note: I am not American so I can’t actually vote, but you get the point.)
Why even write all that then?
For the revleft participation in the system is endorsement of it.
You can't tell people to vote in one election and then tell people that actually it needs to be overthrown and think that's going to happen 5 years later.
At some point or another you just have to commit to it being broken and build your movement based entirely on the fact that it is broken and can not be supported in any way whatsoever.
You are not convincing anyone that there is a need for revolution by telling them that actually there is a reason to participate in the system that you want revolution against. Maybe that passes among very well educated theory-heads but it does not work when you exit theory spaces and start talking to the masses.
At least Biden still feel the need to pander to the LGBT community and other minorities, which means he can still be made to compromise on certain issues. With Trump it’s straight up fascism.
I thought your point through all your posts here on Hexbear dot net is that Biden is a much more ruthless fascist than Trump.. Like you can't say:
With Trump it’s straight up fascism.
and
I mean no offense to the people who think that Trump is someone who can turn America into a full-blown white supremacist state, but they’re dead wrong. Without the ruthlessness of Biden, Trump could never get it off the ground in a million years.
Which is it? So, with Trump the US is going to be a fascist but not full-blown white supremacist state while with Biden the US will be full-blown white supremacist but not fascist.
Or is this just you doing a bit for your own amusement?
There is no socialist project to become dead in the water. What is possible is the project of Palestinian liberation, and THAT is being actively exterminated by Biden. You are fucking ghoulish to think of 4 more years of this as "4 more years of time to organize while protecting minority lives" while he literally exterminated Palestinians. Are they being protected right now while we bomb them?
Those of us with humanity are already getting punished, it doesn't matter if you play by the rules. And again Palestinians are wiped out while you are concerned with playing by the rules.
You have no use to any movement leftward if you are willing to sacrifice the Palestinians "strategically", you are nothing but another second international offering up other people on a platter. Your "bargain" makes you the enemy of socialists just as much as a republican. Go bathe in Arab blood or whatever you do for fun, we want no part in it
I don’t understand why Hexbears think that voting for Biden means supporting his policies.
If Biden was some feckless loser who just kept bumbling around the White House as a well meaning but ineffective in stopping the fascism the USA is based on/infected with, you'd probably be able to make a "critical support" argument to vote for Mr. Magoo to the Hexbear crowd. But this goes beyond anything that could justifiably be argued as "critical support".
Joe and the dems could pass a voting rights act to protect minority voting rights, just like they could protect abortion rights. What minority lives will they be protecting? They're doing urban warfare centers in every major region, and libs are apparently very comfortable with whole sale slaughter of non white people. It's looking more and more as if Genocide Joe is the more effective evil...
I don’t understand why Hexbears think that voting for Biden means supporting his policies
We are supposed to have a "representational democracy" where 'elected' officials represent the will of the people. Votes are consent. Consent is support. Holding your nose is consent.
no matter who fear mongering is part of Manufacturing Consent.The ruling class doen't need to give concessions knowing Manufactured Consent methods will keep them in power. They do not care if you consent gleefully or with distain. Consent is consent.
Voting for Biden or Trump is to maintain consent for the establishment. Voting outside the establishment is a non consent vote. It doesn't need to win, but a large enough faction where the Winston Smiths
can't fudge to hide such as the vote.They had to cover it. They had to factor it. Maybe not winning the war against....war but it embarassed the establishment. Clearly showing they do not represent us with their actions, and more importantly the World at large there is a reaistance movement to what bullshit our leaders are comitting. That not all
wants this and it wasn't just "the Arab population" it was across the board and across demographics.Nice try Vaushite shill, I am immune to your pedo power
Ok but we have to know if we have the numbers and we're never going to know that if we vote for Democrats every year. Counting our numbers is critical and worth way more than voting for either fascist party.
Pretending to care about something does not mean he can be made to compromise on the issue, he and the dems will pretend to stand for something and then conveniently fail to pass or compromise away everything worthwhile until it's exactly the bill Republicans would have wanted anyway
Every time a Democrat is elected without being held to task to follow through on a progressive platform, the Democratic party slips to the right. Hillary was always well to the right of Obama. Biden is well to the right of Hillary.
What looks like "pandering", if you examine it past the most superficial performative level, is a race to the bottom.
In a swing state maybe it makes sense, but 75% of the population does not live in a swing state.
Don't use LGBTQ people as a rhetorical shield to vote for a genocider.
With Trump it’s straight up fascism.
It's fascism with Biden. Which logo and slogan is on the merch won't affect the genocidal nature of the empire.
I don’t understand why Hexbears think that voting for Biden means supporting his policies.
I mean that's what a vote is.
Four more years of time to organize? Lmao organize what exactly?
Lmao this is an elaborate bit. So many good ones in here
Liberals want me to think this is ok because while Biden sent 25 fighter jets, Trump might send 35 fighter jets
According to some in here (even hexbears?!? blech), the genocide perpetrator you know is always better than the one you don't, so yeah, you'd better
for the one you already know is committing a genocide to reduce harm. That's just facts and logic.How does that make sense though? There already were 4 years of Trump. We do know him. He was a standard genocidal Republican
Just annex Israel into the US as two states (Israel and Israel 2) and it'll make up for it, ezpz.
Joe Biden will be remembered in the future as the enabler of the Palestinian genocide
I'm not sure where the lines are in these definitions, or how much the difference really matters but I'm hoping he will be remembered not just as an enabler but as a direct accomplice, which he is. He could have chosen to stop it at any point, instead he has goaded it on and knowingly, unhesitatingly provided the material means to perpetrate it.
in a court of law, if someone was repeatedly recorded on video saying they'd like to kill a murder victim, and provided the murderer with the gun used in the murder, they would be charged as an accomplice, even if they stated under oath that they told the murderer that they shouldn't murder.
Yeah, he's been an unrepentant zionist forever.
At this point the only worse president in my lifetime may be Bush II
As shit as Trump, Obama and Clinton were they at least had some subtlety
If any of them were in charge today, not much would be different. The logic of the empire does not change depending on who rules it.
Finally a target for the F35 to demonstrate it's battle readiness [STATIONARY APARTMENT COMPLEXES, REFUGEE CAMPS, FOOD TRUCKS]
Thank God it doesn't rain very often over there.
More than enough ordnance to destroy Rafah and kill tens of thousands, any vote or support for this monster is active direct support for genocide and should be treated accordingly
I feel compelled to mention that both bomb types mentioned are 'dumb' bombs, they have no way to be guided.
Bunch of evil fucks, they won't even bother to make Israel pinky promise they won't kill civilians with the bombs before handing them over.
You can't convince me Biden is trying to actually win re-election, this is too willfully stupid even for captain dementia.
Israel propaganda is all about how they’re the most self sufficient military, but yet they still need daddy to pull out the checkbook?
FUCK PATRICK
For precision humanitarian strikes.
I remember reading The IOF dropped more bombs on Gaza in the first week than the US dropped on Afghanistan in their entire occupation. Are there recent figures on the scale of the destruction? I mean, what could be left?
not even like support equipment or air defense missiles or whatever that they could at least pretend would have a "defensive purpose"
fking bombs and jets
25 F-35A fighter jets
these cost over $100m each
Israel is an unsinkable aircraft carrier in the mid east. These aren't needed for genociding Palestinians
all palestinian violence against israel is self-defense.
b-but 99.9% Hitler means he's the good guy
The genocide will continue, until morale improves!
This is like the state of New Jersey having 25 F-35's
Luckily the New Jersey Air National Guard only has an F-16C/D squadron and a bunch of refueling aircraft, which must be perfectly reasonable somehow.
By the way, where the lemmy libs at?
There's the one in here saying that voting for trump is the way towards peace
An abiding truth, libs always have the wrong answer
What a vile person. May he suffer like his victims.
If you don't like it,
sweatyAs long as the US remains THE global superpower human progress is impossible. Absolute cancer on the Earth
I’m pretty sure this whole plan is outlined by the Pentagon and the president just signs off. Not like he has much say in the matter anyway since he is just the rubber stamp tool of the military industrial complex.
People are simply brainwashed into thinking the president has any real power. He is just a figurehead and takes his orders from the powers that be: weapons manufacturers and their corporate shareholders who will profit from these sales.
The real issue is that the US economy is propped up by continued warmongering and arms sales. It doesn’t really matter who the president is anymore, he just signs his name on the piece of paper that is handed to him. A good president can use procedural loopholes to soften the blow a bit or maybe sell it as a good idea.
Trump is an idiot who doesn’t care and will do whatever makes him more money, be it from Russia, China, or the Saudis. He doesn’t care. He is for sale to the high bidder, domestic or foreign. He doesn’t have the bandwidth, capacity, or desire to give a shit.
If this:
People are simply brainwashed into thinking the president has any real power. He is just a figurehead and takes his orders from the powers that be: weapons manufacturers and their corporate shareholders who will profit from these sales.
Then this doesn't matter
Trump is an idiot who doesn’t care and will do whatever makes him more money, be it from Russia, China, or the Saudis. He doesn’t care. He is for sale to the high bidder, domestic or foreign. He doesn’t have the bandwidth, capacity, or desire to give a shit.
Pick one or stop caring about the election.
The commander in chief doesn't have authority over the military? Interesting how he manages to bypass Congress to sell weapons to Isntreal
I'm glad that the Biden admin told Isr*el not to attack Rafah, but made sure to load them up with everything they need to do it.
There isn't a lib on this earth that can make me feel an ounce of shame for not voting for this absolute ghoul.
https://lemmy.world/post/13680072
They sure are trying to ignore we keep having issues because of voting for lesser evil there
if theres an opinion i can trust on the state of the world its a 23 year old terminally online redditor from wisconsin
I'm personally okay having a Trump presidency (potentially for life) if it means not voting for Joedolf Bidler.