11mo ago

Klevernotes: UI changes, performance improvements and more!

discuss.kde.org Klevernotes: UI changes, performance improvements and more!

Hi, There has been quite a lot of merge since last time lots of minor tweaks/bugs fixes but also some big changes. Let’s take a look a this! What’s new ? Tweaks/Bugs fixes I’m not going to list and explain each one since there are more or less 20 of them. Tweak wikilink regex The wikilink rege...

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I'm open to discuss on here to :-)
- So I wanted to give Klevernotes a try tonight but:
  it doesn’t show up in Discover when searching for any of the terms Klevernotes, Klever Notes, or just klever. On the command line apt search klevernotes returns an empty result set.
  the install on Linux link on https://apps.kde.org/klevernotes/ doesn’t work either. It opens Discover but yields the error message Could not open appstream://org.kde.klevernotes because it was not found in any available software repositories. Please report this issue to the packagers of your distribution.
  I tried building it myself via the instructions on the GitHub repo but got stuck among the way. Building binaries is a bit beyond my expertise unfortunately.
  I’m on Kubuntu 22.04 with KDE Plasma 5.24.7 in case that matters. Can also file an official bug report as the error message suggests if you advocate for it.
  
  Thanks you for wanting to give it a try, and also to explain the issue clearly without being agressive, that really nice to see.
  Klevernotes is a new project (± 1 year old) and doesn't have a package right now (working on flatpak). So it's pretty normal to not find it in Discover nor apt.
  You guessed it right, you need to compile the project to test it.
  I can try to guide you on how to use kde-src build to build klevernotes, but that might be a bit overkill since it will build every dependencies (useful for devs, a bit less for user). Or I can let you know when the flatpak is ready.

Didn't even know that this existed. Will have to try. Thumbs up for using mark up which makes it easy to export/import notes.
- It's pretty knew and still in incubator, so it's not well known.
  I started the project partially to learn markdown, and I quickly found out that this was a really cool format to deal with
  Let me know what you think about it when you try it ;-)

Never heard of it but seems really nice. Good work
- It's been roughly a year since it has been added to the KDE incubator, and I started working on it like 2-3 months before that, so it's fearly new.
  And thanks, I'm working hard to improve it even more ;-)
  
  Very cool! Nice work!

Cool app! I use Markdown a lot but think it makes little sense for writing notes. You want the text you write resemble what you mean, its for yourself not some latex project others should read.
So I prefer Nextclouds editor a lot. Using something similar would be revolutionary, for sure an efficient Qt/Iced app is nice, but its nothing new.
- @Pantherina @louissch Markdown does resemble what you mean though. Like, that's part of the intent of Markdown (and also part of why it became so popular), that the raw markup is readable and lends itself to being understood in the same way as the formatted version. The markup for emphasis actually looks like emphasis; the markup for a list looks like a list; likewise for a section header, or a table or footnote if you're using a variant that supports those, or so on. So I don't think that particular argument that Markdown is not good for note-taking holds up very well.
  
  Well, I could not have found a better argument to defend markdown. Bravo !
  
  Sorry "display what you mean" is of course a "WYGIWYM" triggerword. I mean notes should have bold headers, not hashtags. It is readable but its strange to use. Why not use plain text then? I think the separation between writing and viewing is strange, as this makes little sense for stuff you write and read alone.

Would it ever support Windows?
I know that some KDE apps do.
- I have no problem with supporting Windows. However this means that I should build it and try it on Windows, which is not my top priority when it comes to OS support right now.
  Flatpak is currently giving me enough problem tbh :/

Great!

Btw, look at this!
https://apps.kde.org/marknote/
- I already know this project.
  At the very beginning I was doing things the same way (it's based on an example project from QT) but it was to limiting for what I wanted to do.
  Now that I have more experience I could maybe revisit the code to see if I could use it for wysiwyg. Thanks for the reminder.
  
  Interesting, I will wait until it appears on Flathub and compare them!
  
  I plan to move the wysiwyg part to a library (probably Kirigami Addons) so that it can be easily reused by other projects.

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