"Twy Edge Pwetty Pwease"
"Twy Edge Pwetty Pwease"
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Separately from that, it drives me mad how warped the idea of "consent" is in Windows (and in tech in general). "Later" is not the opposite of "Yes" goddammit!
Imagine sexual consent was similarly warped: Hey Becky, you wanna have sex? You can only answer "Yes, right now!" or "Maybe later," and I'll keep asking you FOREVER. So, what will it be?
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Maybe later
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Windows does give off the vibes of the type of person who does that tbh. See: âI see youâve been interacting with me in the ways you generally have to, have you considered interacting with me in these ways? Oh you know that competitor isnât nearly as good as I am, look at all the ways I copied themâ
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Windows SP (Sex Pest edition)
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Even teenagers know that no means no
Why doesn't Microsoft?
A meme I saw on /g/
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Unfortunately the tech literate of us are in the minority.
Almost all consumer tech is targeted to the lowest common denominator which is either Dorris, the 68 year old lady from you legal department who prints off emails to read them. Or Jessylyn the Zoomer thats only ever used an iPhone and cant learn anything that take longer than 10 seconds to teach.
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This has me wondering, are young people actually getting LESS pc literate? I'm sure there's studies about that? It's never occurred to me that growing up with computers but without smartphones was peak conditions for becoming tech literate.
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They've been shown to be super susceptible to scams even. I probably support as many young users in my company as I do older ones, but virtually no one in the age range of ~25-35.
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My opinion: yes but also no.
The proportion of the population that is has genuine, full command of any computer at their disposal probably isn't all that much bigger than it was a few decades ago. Meanwhile, commodification of computing technology has put a gobsmacking amount of firepower in the hands of millions of people that have no earthly idea how it actually works, or how crippled their experience is. So by raw headcount, the experts and tech literate are proportionally a smaller group amongst all computer users. But as a percentage of the general population, probably not.
If I could provide one crucial takeaway from all this, it's to not conflate technology use with literacy.
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Ive heard rumors that a portion of smartphone native youth cant figure out how to use a folder/directory
I personally believe interests plays a large role, tech evolved where 90% of things CAN be done on a phone so there is nothing really pushing people to learn about âolderâ tech.
The general enshitification of technology also plays a large role, almost everything is designed to manage your data while limiting users control. The my documents folder got replaced by a ârecentâ tab and a search box.
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Absolutely. So many of the young new hires have no idea what a file is, how to find, edit, copy/paste/move a file, any of it. All they know is how to use is apps that vomit data to them in a âfeedâ type delivery style. Want them to analyze business trends? You need an app that shows them pre-made charts in a feed, they donât know and will not learn how to collect data sources and build those charts themselves though
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That's the issue here, we techies are not the target audience anymore. Back when we started using Windows it was aimed at us because you had to understand it to use it. It's dumbed down because it's not made for people who care how it works or who want customisation.
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Windows 7 was peak. Everything after that has been getting worse and worse every iteration.
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It may have been a little slow at times, but it just worked. It wasn't constantly trying to advertise to you, trying to get you to download apps, trying to force AI onto you, trying to harvest your data, forcing you to use online services, it was just an operating system and a good one at that
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I was an XP fan. 7 was cool, too, though.
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That's not true. Windows 10 is better than Windows 8. But windows 11 is so bad I'm switching to Linux when it's time to update
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Same here. I don't understand people who tell me Windows 11 is alright. I use Windows 11 at work, and it's everything I hated about 10 magnified, with fewer or no ways to fix it. Every time it has an update, it's even worse.
The only reason I haven't migrated to Linux on my main rig is I've got years of regedits investing into Windows 10, but when it loses support, I'm out. I've already installed Linux on my laptop and the mini PC we use for streaming.
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I loved windows 8.1 on my surface pro. It was a great touchscreen OS.
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Windows peaked with Windows 2000.
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My favorite was when my new Windows 11 laptop started automatically backing up my files to OneDrive without telling me, then STOPPED LETTING ME SEND AND RECEIVE EMAILS because my OneDrive was full. Full of stuff that I never wanted to back up.
So one of my main email accounts, which I've used within the free tier limits for 20ish years, suddenly went dark because I signed into Windows.
Of course while investigating, the UI offered helpful options like:
- Pay for more cloud storage
(Not depicted: "Free up some space," "Disable backups")
Epilogue: After several rounds of disabling backups, then deleting the stuff in OneDrive, then Windows deciding that I couldn't have wanted that and backing all my stuff up again anyway, I finally fixed it by deleting some key directories so the backup would just fail.
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i had the same shit with google drive recently, legitimately had to CTRL A and delete everything. It should genuinely be criminal to not have "delete all button" Though to be fair, i think it kind of did tangentially a little bit? It was hidden behind like three menus, and didn't properly update, and i still dont think i have everything deleted from there, i have no idea what google is doing honestly.
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Delete some key directories
My grandfather is in need of a new computer, im not gonna try to Linux pill him, which leaves me with a windows 10 machine that will be EOL this year, and just hope nothing breaks with time. I think he would stop using technology if he saw the constant nags and popups in 11.
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Older folks normally do just fine if you set up some desktop shortcuts and bookmarks. He's likely gone through a few Windows versions and figured it out, after all.
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If all he needs is a browser, get him a Chromebook. Sure it's Google, which is arguably as bad as Microsoft, but you're getting a simple machine which is hard to break, and Google is doing the tech support rather than you.
Or, if you don't want to waste perfectly good hardware, install ChromeOS Flex on the existing machine.
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I 100% agree with you. On my windows 11 machine, the forced integration is incredibly frustrating. When I'm on my mac, though, OneDrive and all of the other Microsoft applications actually work almost flawlessly. There is no forced integration, only what I choose to integrate.
Microsoft shoving integration down our throats is awful. Having the ability to integrate when we choose to is fantastic.
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There is a reason why I don't use Windows on devices I own.
This. This is the reason.
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I remember there was a folder for a Windows marketplace game that I spent a good couple of days trying to get rights to access so I could mod the single player game contained inside. But no, Microsoft had a folder on MY OWN computer locked down tougher than Fort Knox. That was Windows 10 iirc, I can't imagine how much worse it's gotten, I switched to Linux completely a couple years back.
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I got write access once to that folder, but I never found a way to do it without breaking EVERYTHING connected to the Windows store lol Photos app - borked, fucking Calculator - borked, random settings panels - borked, Game Pass - borked
I was eventually able to put Humpty back together again without reinstalling windows, but it never was quite right until I did. It was not a pleasant experience lmfao
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From my understanding, it's heavily obfuscated
Sigh
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Yeah AppX is a different kind of application platform that was built to be secure. Breaking that security breaks functionality. What's lame is that they don't have mechanisms to allow you to change permissions at a granular level and then change them back to defaults. You have to hack it and deal with the consequences which is just bad design.
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Appx is locked down tight on purpose. It's built to be a more secure application platform than exe.
Not saying it's right and you should have to deal, but that's why.
Editing to say I also went Linux last year and I love it far too much to ever go back to Windows. Flatpaks are similar to AppX but at least you can customize the permissions for them. Still I find them to be a bit of a pain to use for some apps.
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I just feel there is a glaring flaw in Appx, in that if you ever need to try and troubleshoot a piece of software or need to access the application folder in anyway for any reason, it's effectively blackwalls it. Or at least, it's not worth the amount of effort and compromise required to bypass it.
Flatpaks are way better than Snaps, but I feel AppImage's do a much better job of modularizing executables and their libraries into an easy to run package. I just wish there was a decent piece of software for management of installation of them.
I use Pop_os on my main computer and recently have been getting back into NixOS and been working on writing a full configuration file for it.
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Buying technology used to be like plucking a ripe apple from a tree. You see, you take, you enjoy.
Lately, I liken the process to gutting a fish. You now have to skillfully dispose of the unwanted bits, and it always comes with unwanted bits.
Edit: okay, you have to pay extra for the "professional" version to go back to a less encumbered experience. It's still bad though.
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And that's just computers. Cars and phones, man, holy crap.
To take your fish analogy, it's like "Well maybe 5% of your catch is NOT laden with innumerable parasites, but they're the only thing that lives here and we gotta eat so...."
Edit: "But I heard there's a new breed that not full of parasites!"
"Yeah but those don't seem to migrate here and if they do they either don't thrive or get eaten by these bloated monstrosities."
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Or choose open-source, which is either plucking the apple, or planting the whole orchard from seeds and tending it for years. Coin toss.
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Pfft! Don't like it? The code to the DNA is right there in the treepo.
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The pro version is still pretty encumbered, pirate the LTSC version if you want unencumbered.
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Bought new laptop recently as in the op picture and OneDrive 'integration' was the final straw for me. I used windows since 3.11 and whilst there's some stuff I don't like about Linux I had enough reasons to make a switch after few hours of worrying where the fuck my files went.
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Just curious, what don't you like about it? What can we fix? As in, what things can actually be changed in the experience and not, "I don't like that Photoshop isn't there."
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I suspect it's issue on the hardware / software line. Example, I am yet to find the music player that can 100% reliable can play flac over Bluetooth without skipping. I've tried plenty, looked into the whole pipewire rubbish and so on, no joy. Sometimes it skips, sometimes not, no clue how to resolve this.
Before I moved to kubuntu (which solved the following issue) I used pop os and sometimes simply viewing Google maps fucked up the whole display, just scrambled everything only solved by hard reset. This kinda stuff.
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I haven't bought a new car since 2004. How fucked am I when I need a new one?
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Very
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Well, you wouldn't buy a 10 year old used laptop, but I drive my second 06 Forester, almost 20 years old.
But for a new car, fucked.
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You have to hunt really, really, hard to find a model without all the shit. I picked up my teenager an outlander Sport last summer.
All the reviews said: the infotainment is dated and older. The engine and transmission hasn't changed in 5 years with no major issues.... Perfect.
Lots of physical buttons and the infotainment center is not critical for the car to function. No climate control settings on it etc. Carplay and AndroidAuto only play through the USB. No OnStar, wifi, or cellphone connectivity.
I do most of my own maintenance after having some clusterfucks at mechanics. I simply follow the manual and check things off. It's the easiest car I have maintained since the 80's. An oil change on it takes 5 minutes. On my wife's Ford escape it takes 5 minutes to get the fucking cover off to get to the oil plug.
I will probably buy another one for my other son in a year when he starts driving.
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Well for starters. You're in for a shock when you see prices.
No longer can you buy a car for under 10k that just works.
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Let me put it this way: don't. Or consider buying a newer used car.
$0.02: If you can keep your 2004 on the road for less than a new car payment, and can suffer the downtime for repair, just don't. The price of new vehicles is way more out-of-whack with inflation and wages than ever before. Also, it looks like manufacturers have become more crafty at steering you back to the dealership for repairs.
My recent new car experience, after retiring a 17 year old vehicle, left me floored with how normalized "spending the day at the dealership" had become. They almost fought me to drop the car off for a recall at a scheduled appointment time, instead of just using the key drop. No thanks, I won't be watching bad cable, drinking bad coffee, all while huffing new tire and brake cleaner fumes all day. This is not the great service you think it is, thank you.
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Prices have gone berserk. New tech and safety features you get are great, if implemented well. Going for a more reliable and conservative car brand might be better for you, and don't ever buy anything that has capacitative buttons instead of physical ones. Hopefully, safety agencies will downright outlaw this shitty trend soon.
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All new cars still do the normal car functions, they just also do more stuff that you donât have to use. Turning off lane assist was one of the first things I did in line since my state refuses to paint lines more than once a decade and refuses to spray off the temp lines from construction projects so it freaked out and tried steering me all the time because it couldnât read lanes well.
Donât listen to people saying youâre screwed, spend 30 minutes going through settings, the dealer should help with this if asked, and then drive like every other car in the last 30 years
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Your wallet is pretty fucked but I got a 2023 Honda Odyssey and I never loved an automobile like this in my life. It's a perfect vehicle by my measure.
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Gosh trying to find the Open PDFs by default using anything other than Edge was a HUGE pain at work where I have to use Microsoft Shit...
It's nowhere in the settings, Edge straight up ignores the fact you set up a different PDF viewer app as a default, which takes way longer to load files than my other installed PDF readers.
You have to right click and have this option checked, smdh.
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Heard about that yesterday from some folks, that it had uploaded all their documents and desktop files and replaced those folder paths with OneDrive paths. Without their knowledge.
Just what the fuck? They were from the US, so that probably isn't illegal there, but why even build such a """feature""", if you'd get sued to hell and back for it in any self-respecting country?
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Recently reinstalled my Windows partition, made the switch from 10 to 11 with it. If you're not careful Microsoft will happily replace your local Documents folder with the OneDrive Documents folder. Local one? No trace. Very VERY frustrating to untangle.
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On my work laptop with windows 10 I find this feature quite useful. Every time the damn thing decide to not boot again (happened twice in 3 years) I can just waste half a work day formatting and reinstalling the OS and then all my files are where I left them.
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I love it for work too, I just wish it didn't create a shitload of "copy of" files if you sync the folders required by GPO (I have no control over the GPOs).
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but why even build such a """feature""", if you'd get sued to hell and back for it in any self-respecting country?
Just don't activate it in self-respecting countries. And in America, wow, look at all this free data that is being stored on our servers! Surely we can parse that for something interesting and sell it or train an AI on it. Once users get used to it we can even charge them for the privelege.
When you find any business decision that makes no sense and you ask "why the fuck would they do that??" just follow the money trail and you'll find your answer. It's always about money. Every time.
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But don't you dare suggest Linux or else you'll be an obnoxious zealot. Better to just keep your head down and let Microsoft maintain their monopoly and steadily make the lives of everyone who uses a computer worse.
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Win11 got me to finally get off my ass and switch to Linux... it's just so invasive, and the way it eats up resources is flat out irresponsible.
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Same here. I think my friends have been expecting me to come crawling back to Windows but not only have I since used the SSD for other Linux projects, I have had no desire to go back to Windows. OpenSUSE Tumbleweed with KDE has been a true delight to use and learn Linux with. I smile every time the desktop loads. I use three monitors and KDE handles windows better than Windows ever could. It does it with far more customization options and its features just make sense and feel really useful, all without being forced.
Oh, and all my games run with higher FPS than they did with Windows 11.
I have had to reinstall it twice due to my learning process, but the last reinstall was a while ago and I've since learned how to fix problems that I create or the very rare update issues. It's a very different beast when you're coming from a lifelong use of Windows.
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Windows 7 was really the last good windows.
Windows 10 was when I switched fully to Linux in my personal life. Windows 11 is far, far worse.
In a work setting, when the admins give it a short leashâŠitâs bearable. But aside from proprietary software i donât understand why people choose to use windows.
I donât think Iâm being patronizing here. If anything, itâs the computer thatâs being patronizing.
I recently had to spin up a Fedora VM and a Win 11 VM, simultaneously, from ISO. Guess which one required more interaction. Guess which one was quicker from âBoot from CDâ to âfunctional web browserâ. Whatever metric you wantâŠclicks, words on the screen (even excluding EULAs to be fairer), pages, time, whatever. Fedora was a much smoother and faster experience
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Maybe 4 years ago I would've thought that last line was an exaggeration about win10, but ohhh boy if thats not their goal now I don't know what is.
Problem with average users its either be fucked in ways that arent apparent until you have to buy a new PC even though your last one was perfect fine, or you fuck yourself up and don't know how to fix it, let alone to approach the thought of that.
To who I have suggested Linux to, usually they are already familiar but not using it as a daily, I've said how installation was smooth and easy, most of the software I need is available or has a nice alternative, some games need light config but there are some that won't, but it isnt for everyone. If they're modifying reg keys to make it less annoying, they deserve a less annoying OS, if they don't give a shit.. their loss lol
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There's nothing quite like starting the configuration of a linux distro on top of shiny new hardware.
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Just click next next until Ubuntu is installed
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And that is absolutely fine. Everyone can hop into Linux with Ubuntu and be up and running and is finally free from Microshit.
But it's super fun to have all the config files for e.g. hyprland and what not open while adjusting every single microscopic little screw to make your system exactly the way you want.
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Life pro tip: Setup your computer as if you were from a European country, it solves most of the annoying issues.
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In the hope MS doesn't go full Apple, with geolocking and grace period and all.
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Windows 11 has made me feel old.
wtf just popped up, whats it doing
Even on maybe 6 year old hardware and SSD some components like the news and weather, sometimes search just take so long to populate that its a question why anyone would use it, and I often don't intend to
wheres that setting
Still have control panel and settings, now we get two right click menus! (More options summons the old win10 styled right click context)
Wish I could stick to windows 7, it was comfortable and clean, people got in a tizzy when they decided to report when you logged on to a server. And look im sounding old
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The two right-click menus are just pain. I can't imagine the reasoning. It's a core UX interaction that is used by every user repeatedly throughout the day. There is no excuse for this type of redundant, time-wasting nonsense.
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Well the new one is cleaner! But it didnt fit all the options because we forgot how to make dynamic UI elements, so we figured the user would be fine clicking again and just reimplementing the last dynamic UI we had.
But heres a button for our AI product that summons an edge window locked to the side of your screen that provides the same functionality as using it in your browser!
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Wish I could stick to windows 7
Bring back XP. Win 7 is far better than 10, which is more tolerable than 11, but XP didn't have any of the multiple settings menu systems.
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Windows XPsp1 was peak. No visual overhead, no surplus protection , nothing but plain interaction with a computer using only mouse
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We'll it was certainly better than me or vista, I'll give it that!
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Maybe in crazy but I preferred both ME and Vista over XP.
Vista's only real problem was that it was resource intensive and people tried to put it on older hardware that could technically run it, but not well. Which understandably caused a bad experience for a lot of people. My experience was on a new laptop that was designed with Vista in mind, and it was fine.
ME allegedly had a bunch of stability issues. Maybe i was just too young to notice, but I don't remember having problems with it as a kid. I was really disappointed when we "upgraded" to XP and lost most of the UI customization options. The rounded blue bars were so bland and boring.
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god i love linux. Shit just fucking breaks, doesn't tell you, leaves you confused, until you go and find out why. Dont want an application? Great, it didn't install to begin with, or you can just remove that shit.
Problem? Try something else. There's something you'll like eventually. I much prefer being treated as a schizo, to being treated like im a fucking deranged psychopath who likes floating windows, and nested settings menus for some reason. Please, take away my window arrangement freedoms, and give me something that does more, with less. I love it. It's great. You want to know the best part? If you don't want that, you just don't have to use it. Truly an incredible platform.
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This is what trying to emulate Apple does to you. Fuck Windows 11.
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I just set up VFIO. I remember it being a total pain in the ass a few years ago, so I was expecting to spend a whole week debugging and tweaking. But, it was surprisingly easy. In just a couple hours I've got a windows 11 VM with it's own dedicated GPU up and running. And the next question that popped into my mind, that I'm yet to solve, is, "What now? What did I just do it for?". All the games I wanted to play now work on wine/proton, some even went out of their way to not work in a VM specifically. Yes, there are a couple pieces of
shitsoftware that I need windows for, but I'd rather keep trying and testing open source alternatives, maybe even participate in their development to the best of my ability, rather than maintaining a VM just for them.-
its* own dedicated GPU
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Youtube keeps locking up, crashing randomly. This is the official Google-published Youtube app, on iOS.
Iâm a greybeard and another greybeard tried to ask me when it was that everything worked perfectly since it never had since the 1980s for him and I said like four years ago.
Until the last couple years, it hasnât been normal for apps to just lock up, freeze, do weird shit, and crash. Not even little nobody apps in the app store, let alone the google core suite apps.
The car I have now, the screen locks up, does weird things.
This is a new cultural standard for shippable quality. A new, lower standard.
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I think Google did something fucky recently. I've been having chrome lock up for me on my lightweight Linux distro when it never has before. It seems like the ram management is totally out of control now.
I use chrome because the dev features are still the best and I need them for work, but I think I'm finally going to switch to Firefox for my non dev needs.
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If you're going to use Chrome, at least use a fork.
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My car's Bluetooth stopped working and when I turn on the radio, the touch screen goes crazy and it thinks that I'm trying to change the audio settings. It also says the year is 2167. The only way to reset that computer is to tear the whole front end of the car apart. I just keep the radio off and listen to music with a Bluetooth speaker. I don't have the time or money to have a dealership take apart a nine year old car for the fuckin Bluetooth and radio. As long as it drives well and passes inspection, I'm happy.
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on iOS
Well there's your problem.
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It's you! A soul of chaos has been found!
Quick! Someone summon the incarnation of entropy! We can finally fix the timeline!
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Iâm happy to do what I can to repair our history ⊠as long as I get to use GitKraken
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These days it's easy to license Windows, but hard to stop telemetry.
Microsoft actually charge you for the software you use, how can they maintain the illusion that you're exchanging your data for access to the service?!
$50 per year, minimum. That's how much data collection costs you. In reality, it's far more, as that number makes various assumptions and does not include the value of the data Google, Facebook and Microsoft collect and keep to themselves - >$50 is just what's traded openly on the market.
Microsoft charge $99 per year for Office, one of the main tools they use to collect user data.
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Computers, phones, cars, TVs, everything now is a vehicle to get you hooked on some subscription plan, the same way cigarettes are simply a delivery method for the real product being sold, nicotine. For computers, Linux is a fine alternative. You might have to tweak a bit but it's not the 2000s anymore, a lot of distros are easy to use. For cars though... My hope is that soon, these living rooms on wheels where everything you do needs a monthly subscription become annoying enough that some underdog car company sees a market and comes up with a dumb model that doesn't need to be connected to anything to work 100%. Or maybe I'm just getting old.
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As soon as that happens they will start dropping the price of "smart" cars to undercut the market. That's how monopolies work. One major reason they can do that is that a dumb car model sees the manufacturer and dealer paid exactly once. The smart car model sells your data and requires maintenance to a point where some cars just won't start if it isn't done. This renders continuing income to both the manufacturer and the dealer.
For proof of concept, look at the smart tv market. Dumb tvs largely aren't around because the price of the hardware is subsidized by the money they make collecting your data, so a dumb tv of the same specs is always prohibitively expensive compared to a smart tv.
That can, will, and in some ways is already happening to the car market.
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Here's to hoping connected cars won't be obligated through legislation.
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Effectively already started to happen. Restrictions on use and higher tax and other charges for older cars designed to âencourageâ people to buy newer ones, nearly all of which are in some way connected.
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Group policy settings are your friend...and Windows still messes with those too.
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Man I hate one drive. Can it be removed/uninstalled?
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In short: yes.
Will it also take you a short time to do, and be certain it won't be magically back next Windows update? Not really, and once in a while they break the current system on how to uninstall it.
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what's wrong with it though?
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The biggest thing that pisses me off about onedrive is moving my damn folders.
C:\Users\Me\Documents
Becomes
C:\Users\Me\onedrive\Documents
Why? JUST WHY???
When you install powershell modules in user context it syncs to one drive. NO REASON FOR THIS. Oh and I can't update the modules because one drive is using the files constantly.
I had to go online to one drive and delete it from one drive so it syncs the delete to my local machine.
Holy shit that's idiotic.
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I want to keep some of my files locally and not on a cloud service? I dislike how that's the default location to save stuff to. Finding my local machine is harder than it should be.
Also cost. Eventually when you get used to it or mass adoption happens they will start nickel and diming you to use their service.
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Hey, I know everyone wants a nice software experience.
But in Microsoft's defense, why shouldn't every user allow Microsoft to extract at regular intervals a part of the monetary value of users' life-force until death? OneDrive and Windows SaaS is a great model, actually, that enables exciting opportunities to vampirically suck dollars from bank accounts of every single user continuously forever.
Has nobody even thought of the substantial ARPU benefits?
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I honestly can't think of anyone that actually uses Edge; it's
shittyChrome wearing a Microsoft-issued t-shirt.-
I mean okay. I use Firefox, but here is the truth. Gecko sucks. Or it doesn't, but any benefit, is either to political activists, or VERY advanced users. And the truth is most people aren't them.
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I use it at work. I honestly like some of the features they added compared to what FF or Chrome have on offer. At home it's FF only, though I miss those Edge features.
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I remember being hype about a new version of windows. Like win95 -> win98. Or even win2k. It was insanely nice.
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Windows 7 may officially be the last windows release anyone anticipated or liked
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7 made me realize MS was getting serious about making a decent OS, 10 was the first version of Windows I was willing to shell out my meager savings for, 11 made me install Linux and I'll never go back.
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hOw AbOuT jUsT uSe LiNuX!
But the OneDrive shit is annoying. You get like one chance during the install to deny it, and if you miss it then fuck you.
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Does anyone know how to delete OneDrive (disable it and delete all the data in it) without deleting my Microsoft account? There's random old pictures backed up there, I use my MS account for Minecraft and nothing else.
I've tried but there's no button for disabling it that I can find on the website?? All the instructions talk about some kind of OneDrive folder but I'm on Linux so of course I don't have that.
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Shit in a manilla envelope and mail it to Microsoft's headquarters.
It won't help with your one drive issue but it'll be hilarious and if enough people do it then it could become a real headache.
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While Microsoft deserves this, USPS workers don't. Spend the money you would have getting a newer computer that can run Windows 11 to fly to their headquarters and take the dump at their doorstep. Bonus points for maintaining eye contact with the receptionist or security guard.
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Run a PowerShell session as admin and enter the following commands:
Get-AppxProvisionedPackage -Online | Where-Object { $_.PackageName -match "OneDrive" } | Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage -Online -AllUsers
Get-AppxPackage -AllUsers | Where-Object { $_.Name -match "OneDrive" } | Remove-AppxPackage -AllUsers
Might be easier to do this in PowerShell ISE so you can edit these two commands. But this will first remove the installer package for OneDrive so that it can't reinstall again, and then it removes the installed app from all profiles.
I haven't personally tested this, but I use PowerShell professionally and the commands are solid. If it didn't work then it just means that Microsoft packaged OneDrive in a different manner than the other built-in apps. You can also remove other annoying apps that are pre-loaded this way. Just swap out "OneDrive" for the proper name or partial proper name of the appx app. Use Get-AppxPackage by itself to learn what the proper names are for the apps that are installed.
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Had to move to a Win11 machine, because of work - I've never been so frustrated with a Windows interface in my life. For reference, I've used everything from Windows 3.11 to 10, enjoying most upgrades (except Vista). Never have I experienced such UI and usability downgrade.
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Windows 8 was a nightmare unless you installed Classic Shell, then Microsoft eventually figured out that desktops aren't tablets and deprecated Metro after about a year of people bitching.
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Agree, I thought Vista was bad until we upgraded to Win8. Holy shit was MS huffing some whack shit when they designed that monstrosity.
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This is the only one from the list that I skipped. They couldn't force me to upgrade from 7 at the time, then the reviews came, and I wouldn't touch 8 with a stick. Waited for Win10 instead.
I wish I could skip 11 to whatever next version they fix it with, but alas this time I'm trapped :/
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I think they were feature complete with 98 and polished with xp. Everything after that was unnecessary bloat and chasing flashy UI trends (or worse, needlessly changing things to "innovate").
I use xfce and it basically hasn't changed UI style since xp and I love it.
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I disagree for 3 things: UAC, PowerShell, and general driver abuse loopholes being closed and making security not a joke
I will also say from my personal experience there are a fair number of QOL improvements in the UI, but they kind of threw most of them away with 11, but hey, at least we get tabbed explorer... Which I still can't figure out any real use for, especially the way it's implemented...
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It doesn't appear the ublock origin dev for edge is Raymond Hill either. And it doesn't block ads in the Microsoft start page either.
- I really must look into whether graphene will work with my device, autocorrect is off the chain and refuses training.
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Windows users will say this and then call you slurs when you even suggest other options exist
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Changes like this don't come about in a vacuum. Microsoft made it easy for users to fuck things up and users did fuck things up and then users complained about Windows getting fucked up when it was the users doing the fucking.
So now Microsoft has made it harder to fuck up Windows because people complaining about it being hard to fuck up Windows is more politically tolerable than people fucking up Windows and then telling everyone Windows is all fucked up.
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Sure, but I'd wager that pales in comparison to the gain from being able to conveniently 'default' users to the options that grant MS access to the largest amount of data.
In addition, a somewhat plausible excuse to then hide away the ability to turn off all of this 'guidance' under the pretense of looking out for the end users.
This is the telemetry and monetisation equivalent of "we have to ban encryption to stop the criminals and terrorists, won't somebody please think of the children" only much more successful
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I actually like onedrive đ„č
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Aha! We've found him, boys! The One. For whom the drive was created. Hence the name.
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Hey you do you.
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I like it at work and used to like it at home until I ran out of space and was forced to make financial decisions. Now I use a cheap used server and Nextcloud/Syncthing.
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I'd literally kill a hobo if that would give me back Windows 7 interface back instead of two different settings panels.
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