I can't use AMD

Can we stop using the Steven Crowder meme already. The guy is a total chode.
- Lol. He gives chodes a bad rep. Call him what he is. A christofascist misogynist grifter.
- I don't really disagree, but I think that was the original intent of the meme; to show Crowder as a complete chode by having him assert really stupid, deeply unpopular ideas.
  The meme's use has become too soft on Crowder lately, though, I think.
- I notice lately that many memes origins are worse than I thought from the context they are used in. Racist, homophobic, and lying people are not something I usually accept as entertainment, but they sneak their way unnoticed into my (non-news) feed through memes. I guess most people won't know the origins of the meme and use it according to the meaning they formed on their own. Other memes like the distracted boyfriend meme are meaningless stock photos, so I understand why many people use memes without thinking about the origins.
  Anyway, thanks for pointing out who the person in the picture actually is.

- I must admit when I learned this was Crowder I had a sad
  
  Just change and reupload :D

Oh please. There are better templates than this stupid Nazi cunt. I really don't want to see this fuckface.
- Yes! This is a nice alternative template for example.
- For the longest time I just thought he was that one guy from modern family.
  
  I just now learned he was not
- isnt the joke that he wont change his mind on his stupid ideas, though?

I thought NixOS was the new Arch btw
- From: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/btw-i-use-arch
  BTW I Use Arch is a catchphrase used to make fun of the type of person who feels superior because they use a more difficult Linux distribution.
  I think that's fair to apply to some NixOS users. Source: BTW I use NixOS.
  
  I mean the barrier of entry is kind of high if you're used to more traditional package managers.
  Source: I tried using nix on my Debian machine
  
  I mean at this point, people use that phrase themselves, so I don't think it really makes fun of them anymore.
  I use EndeavorOS, btw
- Damn you're kinda right
- Good point

At least the Arch people are not shilling for some corp.
- I'm tired of people taking sides like companies give a shit about us. I wouldn't be surprised to see five comments saying something like "you shouldn't buy Nvidia AMD is open source" or "you should sell your card and get an amd card."
  I'd say whatever you have is fine, it's better for the environment if you keep it for longer anyway. There are soo many people who parrot things without giving much though to an individuals situation or the complexity of a company's behavior. Every companies job is to maximize profit while minimizing loss.
  Basically if everyone blindly chose AMD over Nvidia the roles would flip and AMD would start doing the things Nvidia is doing to maintain dominance, increase profit, reduce cost and Nvidia would start trying to gain more market share from AMD by opening up, becoming more consumer friendly, competitively priced
  For individuals, selling your old card and buying a new AMD card for the same price will net you with a slower card in general or if you go used there is a good chance it doesn't work properly and the buyer ghosts you. I should know, I tried to get a used AMD card and it died every time I ran a GPU intensive game.
  I also went the other way upgrading my mother's Nvidia card with a new AMD card that was three times as expensive as her Nvidia card ($50) would be on eBay and it runs a bit slower than her Nvidia card did. She was happy about the upgrade though because I used that Nvidia card in her movie server resulting in better live video transcoding than a cheap AMD card would.
  
  Who is saying to sell your card so you can buy AMD?
  
  When there are only two options and one is nearly a monopoly, do you still think there's no good side?
  CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

Steven Crowder is a despicable human and does not deserve a meme template.
- I thought we were using the Calvin and Hobbes image now.
- Its impressive you know the source of this meme
- He is a despicable human. Point and laugh at the moron. Make an example out of him instead of trying to sanitize the internet.
  
  Not a criticism of you but a little fun fact about him for others, he has a bunch of friends who "aren't" Nazis but calling themselves or have friends who like to call themselves stuff like "race realist".

I run Stable Diffusion with ROCm. Who needs CUDA?
- What distro are you using? Been looking for an excuse to strain my 6900XT.
  I started looking at getting it running on Void and it seemed like (at the time) there were a lot of specific version dependencies that made it awkward.
  I suspect the right answer is to spin up a container, but I resent Docker's licensing BS too much for that. Surely by now there'd be a purpose built live image- write it to a flash drive, reboot, and boom, anime ~~vampire princes~~ hot girls
  
  If you don’t like docker take a look at containerd and podman. I haven’t done any cuda with podman but it is supposed to work
  
  I resent Docker's licensing BS too much for that.
  Pay us if you're a mid+ sized compan is BS?
  
  I set mine up on arch. There's an aur package, but it didn't work for me.
  After some failed attempts, I ended up having success following this guide.
  Some parts are out of date though, so if it fails to install something you'll need to have it target a newer available package. Main example of this is inside the webui-user.sh file, it tells you to replace an existing line with export TORCH_COMMAND="pip install torch torchvision torchaudio --extra-index-url https://download.pytorch.org/whl/rocm5.1.1". This will fail because that version of pytorch is no longer available. So instead you need to replace the download URL with an up to date one from the pytorch website. They've also slightly changed the layout of the file. Right now the correct edit should be to find the # install command for torch line and change the command under it to: pip install --pre torch torchvision torchaudio --index-url https://download.pytorch.org/whl/nightly/rocm5.7
  You may need to swap pip to pip3 too, if you get a pip error. Overall it takes some troubleshooting, look at any errors you get and see if it's calling for a package you don't have or anything like that.
  
  Arch ofc.
  
  I use stable diffusion on rocm in an ubuntu distrobox container. Super easy to set up and there's a good guide in the opensuse forum for it.
  
  Ubuntu native for me..no containers needed.
  
  I use Fedora. It works great, with some tweaks to the startup script.
- I can confirm that it works just fine for me. In my case I'm on Arch Linux btw and a 7900XTX, but it needed a few tweaks:
  Having xformers installed at all would sometimes break startup of stable-diffusion depending on the fork
  I had an internal and an external GPU, I want to set HIPVISIBLEDEVICE so that it only sees the correct one
  I had to update torch/torchvision and set HSAOVERRIDEGFXVERSION
  I threw what I did into https://github.com/icedream/sd-multiverse/blob/main/scripts/setup-venv.sh#L381-L386 to test several forks.
- CUDA?! I barely even know'a!
- Then show us your anime titty pics!

Earlier in my career, I compiled tensorflow with CUDA/cuDNN (NVIDIA) in one container and then in another machine and container compiled with ROCm (AMD) for cancerous tissue detection in computer vision tasks. GPU acceleration in training the model was significantly more performant with NVIDIA libraries.
It's not like you can't train deep neural networks without NVIDIA, but their deep learning libraries combined with tensor cores in Turing-era GPUs and later make things much faster.
- AMD is catching up now. There are still performance differences, but they are probably not as big in the latest generation.
- Things have changed.
  I can now run mistral on my intel iGPU using Vulkan.
  
  If you're talking about "running", that's inference. I'm talking about elapsed training time.

Brother of "I need nVidia for raytracing" while only playing last decade games.
- I completely unironically know people who bought a 4090 exclusively to play League
- Not gonna lie, raytracing is cooler on older games than it is newer ones. Newer games use a lot of smoke and mirrors to simulate raytracing, which means raytracing isn't as obvious of an upgrade, or can even be a downgrade depending on the scene. Older games, however, don't have as much smoke and mirrors so raytracing can offer more of an improvement.
  Also, stylized games with raytracing are 10/10. Idk why, but applying rtx to highly stylized games always looks way cooler than on games with realistic graphics.
- Quake 2 does looks pretty rad in RTX mode
- Playing old games with Ray tracing is just as amazing as playing new games with Ray tracing. I know quake rt gets too dark to play half way through, they should have added light sources in those areas.
  Then again, I played through cyberpunk 2077 at 27fps before the 2.0 update. Control was pretty good at 50fps, and I couldn't recommend portal enough at about 40fps on my 2070 super. I don't know if teardown leveraged rt cores but digital foundry said it ran better on Nvidia and I played through that game at 70fps.
  I love playing with new technologies. I wish graphics card prices stayed down because rt is too heavy nowadays for my first gen RT card. I play newer games with rt off and most setting turned down because of it.
  
  I love playing with new technologies. I wish graphics card prices stayed down because rt is too heavy nowadays for my first gen RT card. I play newer games with rt off and most setting turned down because of it.
  I wish they stayed down because VR has the potential to bring back crossfire/SLI. Nvidia's gameworks already has support for using two GPUs to render different eyes and supposedly, when properly implemented, it results in a nearly 2x increase in fps. However, GPUs are way too expensive right now for people to buy two of them, so afaik there aren't any VR games that support splitting rendering between two GPUs.
  VR games could be a hell of a lot cooler if having 2 GPUs was widely affordable and developers developed for them, but instead it's being held back by single-gpu performance.

I'm holding out building a new gaming rig until AMD sorts out better ray-tracing and cuda support. I'm playing on a Deck now so I have plenty of time to work through my old backlog.
- I was straight up thinking of going to AMD just to have fewer GPU problems on Linux myself
  
  In my experience,
  AMD is a bliss on Linux,
  while Nvidia is a headache.
  Also, AMD has ROCM,
  it's their equivalent of Nvidia's CUDA.
  
  My experience with the Deck outside of CS2 has been nothing short of mind-boggling. I don't even REALLY have a problem with CS2 but I cannot play online for VAC reasons I can't sort out. I have a ticket open with Steam Support. 🤷
- CUDA isn't the responsibility of AMD to chase; it's the responsibility of Nvidia to quit being anticompetitive.
  
  It's also not my problem either. I don't give a shit what nvidia or AMD does, I just want to be able to run AI stuff on my rig in as open-source a manner as is possible.
- Amd
  Cuda support
  😐

Mb zluda also works

Rocm is the AMD version

last I heard AMD is working on CUDA working on their GPUs and I saw a post saying it was pretty complete by now (although I myself don't keep up with that sort of stuff)
- Well, right after that Nvidia amended their license agreements stating that you cannot use CUDA with any translation layers.
  The project you're thinking of is ZLUDA.
  
  NVIDIA finally being the whole bitch it seems, not unexpected when it comes to tech monopolies.
  In the words of our lord and savior Linus Torvalds "NVIDIA, fuck you! 🖕", amen.
  In all reality, a lot of individuals aren't gonna care when it comes to EULA B's unless they absolutely depend on it and this whole move has me want an AMD gpu even more.
  
  That sucks if that's true. And would also ironically not be the first time AMD is getting denied a thing after they already have an implementation ready for it lol.

I need NVDA for the gainz
Edit: btw Raspberry PI is doing an IPO later this year, bullish on AMD

My only regret for picking team red is that DaVinci Resolve doesn’t support hardware encoding.

If anything AMD (for ML) is the hardware "I use [x] btw" (as in I go through unnecessary pain for purism or to one up my own superiority complex)

Man I just built a new rig last November and went with nvidia specifically to run some niche scientific computing software that only targets CUDA. It took a bit of effort to get it to play nice, but it at least runs pretty well. Unfortunately, now I'm trying to update to KDE6 and play games and boy howdy are there graphics glitches. I really wish HPC academics would ditch CUDA for GPU acceleration, and maybe ifort + mkl while they're at it.
- Use driver 535 until explicit sync is implemented by NVIDIA.

Stable Diffusion works on Radeon 7900XTX on Ubuntu.
- 7900XTX
  is it with Automatic1111?
  
  Yes.
- 7900 GRE is officially supported too which seems like a great <$600 option on the market right now.
  
  Works on the AMD Pro series GPUs and my 6800xt on Pop OS

https://ollama.com/blog/amd-preview

I do actually need nvidia for blender since AMD raytracing support is still a work in progress for it.
As soon as it's stable, works on linux, and a mid-range AMD card performs as well as my 3060 though I'm absolutely jumping to AMD.

No it's not

3D rendering with optix. I don't do AI nonsense other than chatgpt for the occasional shell script or python function.

Back in my day, the AMD drivers were the janky ones...

mfw rocm

Yes. Haha. Amusing. But really....Blender, Davinci Resolve, and a host of others. It's not a hobby, it's quite literally a (albeit small) portion of my income.
And it has nothing to do with anime nudes.
Anime/waifu is literally for pedos wanting a loophole. Sorry, not sorry.