Google search is over

when will people learn that search results change all the time and are different for different people

Oh, this is great... And because the ChatGPT transcript is highly ranked on Google, it's almost certainly going to be used for training ChatGPT. A feedback loop of shitty information. Praise ChatGPT!

The second-highest hit gives a clue as to why:

Relevantly to Lemmy’s existence in the first place, it suggests Reddit as a pretty pivotal training data source, which Reddit tries to cash in on while also killing 3rd party apps due to apathy

I doubted this, so I tried it. I haven't used google for ages, so I first had to search "google" in DDG, then I went to the main page. When I started typing it in, it suggested the full text of the search, so I thought it was even less likely that it would work like the OP said - that even if it had been the case that it previously did that, so many people have self-evidently done that search that the results would now be correct.

But no - there it was, right at the top - "While there are 54 recognized countries in Africa, none of them begin with the letter "K". The closest is Kenya, which starts with a "K" sound, but is actually spelled with a "K" sound."

And with that, I'll contentedly go back to not using google.

Chatgpt creating incorrect feedback loops like this is one of my main concerns about AI being used so prevalently. This and original thoughts disappearing because every new content in the web is generated by AI and not by a human.

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Which starts with a "K" sound, but is actually spelled with a "K" sound

AI is truly magical

AI generated content is pure search result pollution.

What Google should be doing rather than pushing Bard is detecting AI nonsense and purging it from their search database.

I actually stopped using google search all together last night, I was searching for something and the result where just abysmal and mostly irrelevant, I searched on DuckDuckGo and found much better results. I was using both, Google used to be so good and now it's just a mess.

Hmm, maybe AI won't replace search engines.

Surprised your first ten results weren't ads

Searched for 'office gym' on YouTube yesterday and it returned a bunch of videos of Jim from The Office. The enshittification is everywhere these days.

I tried and it is true here at least. Says Kenya is the closest but although it starts with a K sound, it's spelled with a K sound. lmao

The only time I tried ChatGPT for something that required a little bit of processing it failed miserably. I had a shower thought, "what is the most used noun on lyrics of this band I like?" I asked it and it gave me random words. I decided to investigate and ask it what are specific lyrics of some of the most popular songs and it kept telling me made up lyrics, when I could actually find them immediately on Google.

Tbh the problem is not due to chat gpt but because Google doesn't rank search results by correctness but something that is related to popularity.

I've been using DDG for a year and like the search results but what bothers me is that you can't exclude a word from your query with minus sign!

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/98bd9cfc-454a-4018-9217-e35ea5af305b.png

Hmmmm.

Constantly forgetting I changed all my default search engines to DuckDuckGo.

Went to Google to test this...what a trash website.

Pushed me to download the app.

Pops up a recommendation to download Chrome.

Has clutter on the default search search form.

Looks more like yahoo than the google of yore

I tested this with my local google so not America, somewhere in Europe. "While there are 54 recognized countries in Africa, none of them begin with the letter "K". The closest is Kenya, which starts with a "K" sound, but is actually spelled with a "K" sound." I'd say this is worth a wot.

I never got into DDG because Google was legitimately better. It seems that is no longer the case and I'm finding no reason to use it instead anymore.

I got the uber pedant.. "While there are 54 recognized countries in Africa, none of them begin with the letter "K". The closest is Kenya, which starts with a "K" sound, but is actually spelled with a "K" sound. It's always interesting to learn new trivia facts like this."

@JoBo I just googled it and Kenya came up as the first hit in Search and in Bard.

Thanks to this post, I changed my search engine in Vivaldi to DuckDuckGo, and Edge uses Bing already, and I changed Mull's engine to Ecosia. Phew! Now I feel better.

Google when did you get so crummy?

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When I googled "What countries in Africa start with a K", it gave the correct answer, but when I googled "Do any countries in Africa start with a K", it gave me the ChatGPT nonsense.

I didn't think it would work, because surely they'd patched it by now, but:

While there are 54 recognized countries in Africa, none of them begin with the letter "K". The closest is Kenya, which starts with a "K" sound, but is actually spelled with a "K" sound. It's always interesting to learn new trivia facts like this.

I could reproduce it exactly as described.

I saw it, it's marked as a "featured snippet", whatever that means....

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Someone recommended Kagi here, and tho it isn't free, it's the only engine I've found so far that can legitimately consistently outperform google

No need for using sensational/clickbait headlines like this.

Kagi also links to an alphabetical list as first result. However, they also have a "quick answer" button using an LLM.

Quick Answer

The country in Africa that starts with the letter K is Kenya. [1] Kenya is located in East Africa and shares borders with Tanzania, Uganda, South Sudan, Ethiopia, and Somalia. [2]

Alphabetical List of All African Countries - ThoughtCo Countries beginning with K - Worldometer

Post truth. From the big G. How times have changed.

Also, tested Bard a few times and current AI is close to useless: I have to check everything it outputs. Might as well get an intern

Apparently, Google has also taken to suck deez nuts.

The result if you unfortunately have Google's "Bard AI" search lab turned on. At least it has a disclaimer that the results may be garbage.

Showed up for me on google.ca lol. Glad I switched to duck duck go a whole a go.

I left google search some 5 years ago. About twice a year I find myself trying it and being amazed by how crap it is.

DDG FTW!

We don't have AI. We have a chinese room.

My chatGPT got it correctly ;)

Now that I think about it, I haven't used Google in a while, not even as a bang in DDG.

That's remind me when you search uselessbenchmark in google, it shows nothing related to userbenchmark but some post, if you search uselessbenchmark in DuckDuckGo and Bing it will show you userbenchmark in the first results.

Add to it Reddit use to have all the odd answers to things you had questions about. Unfortunately, for whatever reason that well has run dry.

It's not doing it anymore

Brave has a similar answer

Can confirm, still happening 🤦‍♂️

So what are your bets, when will Google kill Google?

How popular cuz I've never heard of it.

Here’s Kagi

So if you search for something in Google, you Google(d) it

If I use DuckDuckGo... Is it duck it? If it's not it should be after all the years of autocorrect changing fuck it to duck it, I think society has earned this one.

hasn't been like it was for years now.

Bing gives me the right answer: that list of countries.

What an amazing time we live in. Where Bing is better than Google. Though Bing does have AI, I think you have to scroll up (past the top) or directly search with it so far.

Works perfectly fine for me

"Kenya. Kenya is a country located in East Africa. It shares borders with Tanzania, Uganda, South Sudan, Ethiopia, and Somalia."

The. First two actual results links are : Countries that start with "K" and Category:Countries in Africa

Tested in both English and French

Metaverse part 2

i use ddg and kagi for search

That is why some people are building new search engines as admarust.net a full p2p search engine able to index IPFS content. https://github.com/Mubelotix/admarus

Compare with Kagi (this is a shared search for anyone who doesn't have an account):

https://kagi.com/search?q=country+in+Africa+that+starts+with+the+letter+K&r=se&sh=8keg7Qv2uStLGzldGYAhUg

Just checked on Kagi. It doesn't provide quick answer to this query, but that weird EmergentMind website is #1 on results. This is prolly because Kagi is taking some of the results from Google index, but good thing is, I can just block this website using lenses.

It was dogass before ChatGPT. Bing is legitimately better, although it uses chat gpt too.

Maybe it's because I have ad blockers on, and try to avoid AI like the plague, but my google searches are giving me actual results rather than what you're describing.

Then again, I know google gives different results based on the user.

Wow, I didn't know AI was dumb (for now).

Same with brave search. Da fuq is going on anymore.

Works fine for me

Kenya. Kenya is a country located in East Africa. It shares borders with Tanzania, Uganda, South Sudan, Ethiopia, and Somalia.

I'm a big fan of ChatGPT. And if all of this leads to people no longer blindly believing what they see on the internet, then even more so.

And if we're honest: Asking Google a question hasn't always led to the right answer.

I don't even know what to say here.

Yeah, the last search I did on a search engine that had ChatGPT automatically integrated was regarding last year's Super Bowl.

The AI informed me that Patrick Mahomes won it by kicking a game-winning field goal.

It's clear they programmed the AI to just make shit up. It's useless.

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it is not Artificial Intelligence. It is Average Intelligence. And they want it everywhere.

Google gave me a list of countries as the top hit. Bing did the same. Whoever wrote this article has an agenda.

I literally just googled that exact search inquiry and it told me all about Kenya. What's the problem again, and why are all these comments pretending the so-called glitch is real?