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Schools in America apparently have their own army recruiter

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Wait till OP hears about mandatory service in other countries.
- Do the kids of the ownership classes also have to serve with the rest of the grunts? Or are they sectioned off to champaign units the way George W. Bush did his Coast Guard tour? Or given exception like for Trump's bone spurs?
  If aristocrats are on the front line with the of the enlisted, there might be better regard for vets.
  I wonder if those countries also face the same degrees of top-down abuse and sexual assault for which the US Army is reputed.
  War is Hell, but the US armed forces have more special hells than Big Trouble in Little China
  
  Over in Russia, the art of dodging the draft is a finely developed one. It has been so even before the, ahem, special military operation.
  
  Do the kids of the ownership classes also have to serve with the rest of the grunts?
  You will never see the child of a ruler get sent to the front lines.
  They all have enough money to avoid serving, anyways. Just go to a different country.
- Lol that's what I was going to say.
  
  There's nothing wrong with mandatory military service if your military doesn't pick fights with everyone else's.
  
  Yes there is, because forced labor is slavery.
  
  Voluntarily discipline style camps sure.
  Mandatory would backfires on me. I am happy to help but to command my body around requires my consent and respect for my pacifist boundaries.
  
  It's not an exclusive thing. Most European countries with forced service allow alternate forms of service as well. My coworkers worked with an emergency medical service instead.
  It's really moe like forced community service, but one of the ways you can serve your community is learning to defend it in a time of war.
  
  I am a huge fan of community service but you'd have to be specific about forced or i regard it the same thing.
  I love my real life job but i hate that i need it to earn a wage, because i need a wage to survive and i would deliver better work if i could do it just because it enjoy it (and choose my own workhours)
  I admit i am a bit of an edge case, if i broke the law i would gladly serve a sentence if they can convince me with logical argument that i made the wrong choice and can be improved.
  If they cant convince me of that i means i am punishment while believing my innocence, it would be the most definitive proof of evil an immorality baked into the social contract and fuel me to use the few rights i would still have in jail to radicalize myself further within anti-centralized-state ideology
  
  There very much is.
  For starters, should things actually go south, they'll send you to war. I don't want nor plan to partake in this festival of turning people into slabs of bloody meat. I'm an aggressively pacifist civilian, and fuck everybody who tries to turn me into a soldier.
  Second, no work should be mandatory. Turning it into a "duty" is essentially stealing my autonomy and forcing me to do things against my will. This is institutionalized slavery.
  
  I mean, the US doesn't. It just drone strikes them. Picking a fight presumes it's a fair fight.
  
  All's fair in love and war?
  
  Sometimes, sometimes not. That's why books are written and classes are created and endless debates are had on the subject.
  
  Bomb them. No more debates.

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