Biden Sharpens Criticism of Israel, Calling Gaza Response ‘Over the Top’

jesus, what an extremely late understatement

Biden slams the Palestinian genocide as "a little too much".

Judge a man by his actions, not by his words.

I hope the ICJ takes the US, UK, Germany and other genocide enablers to the trial too.

Don't forget Canada.
Hmm, is it me who's wrong about the facts on the ground and the application of international law?
No, it is Canada who is has gone genocidal!
- Canada has a long and arguably continuing history of genocide.

“There are a lot of innocent people who are in trouble and dying,” the president said in a session with reporters.

Gee, then maybe you shouldn't have cut funding to the biggest single relief agency in the area just because Israel told you to (archive part 1, part 2), you fucking clod

e; Six pages of evidence (archive) about 12 people in an organization of 13000 that we probably didn't even see (archive) and a bunch of disinformation from Israeli mouthpieces was all it took

You don't have to prove with links that we did that. We were joined in it by a broad, multilateral coalition of partners.
Those who saw the raw intelligence said it was irrefutable and the problem was significantly more widespread than the 13 people directly accused, all of whom the agency immediately fired upon also seeing the intelligence.
- [citation needed]
- This is ass backwards. UNRWA immediately fired the accused employees solely because they were worried about the potential ramifications and figured it wasn’t something worth fighting. They had and have seen zero actual evidence to back it up. Meanwhile, half the west stupidly took this as evidence that the allegations were true and pulled their future funding, while they too have seen zero actual evidence to back up Israel’s claims.
- Half of the budget that was cut was from the USA alone, about 29% of their annual, only 9 nations withdrew funding total.

Biden is SO CRITICAL of Israel that he's ready to send them BILLIONS more dollars without Congressional Approval! THAT will teach Israel to STOP!

Technically he sold them weapons previously, not given them billions, although in the voted down bipartisan border bill the concession of billions given are for Israel AND Palestine humanitarian aid.
He's still a piece of shit, but nuance matters imo.
Yeha, he's just making sure he wins the next elections. He knows this is one of the reasons why people won't vote for him. The fact he is keeping it this tame just shows he really doesn't want to affect his relations with Israel. So, after he wins, everything will stay the same way.
- I’m guessing you’re his biographer? Maybe his therapist? Are you him?
  Gotta be one of the three to know so much about what his intentions are.

Next he will tell them to knock it off. That will show them for sure.

Maybe he'll even talk about possibly not selling them more of the weapons being used to kill innocents with.

“over the top” is a bit tame in my opinion. i would frankly go as far as to say what they’re doing is “not cool”, maybe even “uncalled for”

Less than chill

Stop talking and pull the aid. Nothing Biden says on the subject matters while he's still sending them aid.

Also, he should reinstate funding for UNRWA and stop aiding the IDF effort to starve everyone in Gaza (*also applicable here in Canada and several other countries). Even if the Israeli allegation that UNRWA staffers are all Hamas-affiliated was true, we're talking about fucking food, medication, and survival essentials for 95% of the world's most starved people (up from 80% as of recently).

I suppose a bowling ball is perhaps sharper than a soggy mattress -_-

finger wagging strengthens, stern look intensifies

wink nod [keeps sending Israel bombs to use against civilians in Gaza]

Now that his criticism is nice and sharp, maybe he can waggle that around in a threatening manner.
- If stern looks killed, Bibi would still be absolutelly fine right now.
If Bibi keeps going like this, he might get grounded, or worse without dessert!

What he needs to say is, “You’ve had your fun. Stop now. If not, we’ll invade.”

No need to invade, just stop giving them new toys.
- Could just demand the immediate resignation of Bibi and his government as a prerequisite for a continued alliance, but that would require a spine.
- Yep, they're already struggling as it is. If they had to fight house to house with just rifles they'd stand no chance.
Delusional.

Are we continuing on the series for Biden's campaign ads?

"You all thought he was supporting genocide but look he is slapping Israel's wrist! There you go, now you can vote for him with a clear conscience"

It's not slapping their wrist, it's more like wagging his finger.
- but he sharpens his criticism!
True, but at least he isn't the orange orangutan that wants to kill democracy.
It's so fucking depressing when you have these two as the most likely candidates and the only third option is so unknown that most people won't know who they are and even less vote for them.
Hell, even the NYT doesn't show de la Cruz in the running - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/us/politics/presidential-candidates-2024.html
Unfortunately the US elections often come down to voting for the person you dislike less.
Do I like his stance on Israel? No
But his opponent (Trump) stance/actions is worse
So I will hold my nose and do my civic duty
- Basically.
  It felt awful voting for him the first time. Now? Lol. You have to keep perspective that this countrys official stance on Israel from the start has been unwavering support. I think even if we got Bernie in 16 he would have found it hard to do much with this one. Congress would still foot the bill no matter what he did or said. Israel has been a geopolitical oasis for US foreign policy, and say what you will about US foreign policy, but abandoning a long term ally weakens your soft powers exponentially.
  And on that note, abstaining from voting or voting for the nuclear cheetoh because US foreign policy is horrific is ensuring we do/enable far, far worse. And if youre counting on a revolution in the age of drones to occur after the public is fed up with trump and lgbtq folks are in cages, i got news for you: we have absolutely none of the systems in place to care for a populace after all the current systems at play would die in this supposed revolution.
  God. Its just frustrating. I get it, i hate US neoimperialism too, but did u miss the bit where the other big players have their populace more under their thumbs? Bc at least here u still have a functioning vote. If u dont throw it away, that is.
- Why do you think trump would be worse on israel? Hes the only president in 50-100 years not to start a war. He got us out of afghanistan. Hes not telling the israelis they have our full throated support. And even more importantly, I cant think of a single way for him personally to get rich off of the israeli genocide, so I can only assume he would have zero interest in prolonging it. Like, honestly, he seems like the least bad option weve had in a long time, because we know exactly how he will behave, and its certainly not as bad as all of the presidents who oversaw mass killings. He will be a buffoon, and he will probably attempt another coup. So what? You think the FBI cant contain a second coup, which they are now expecting? If thats the price we have to pay to get a president who doesnt openly support genocide, im more than willing to pay it.

Well Americans, prepare for Isreal to interfere with your elections.

They can get in line
- Wait I thought this was the queue for complaints!
  I've been waiting here for ages
They probably already do
They have legal bribery there, they don't even need outside interference lol.

This sounds like the setup to an Onion article: "Biden calls Israel's response to Gaza, 'over the top.' Says that bombing of refugee camps, 'a bit much,' and the famine cause by aid blockades, 'really cringe.' At press time, President Biden was signing a bipartisan deal to send the Israeli military $20 billion in weapons."

Provides political, military, and economic support for Israel after they were attacked horrifically. Refuses to set any limits or conditions upon said support
Gets taken for a ride by the hardline zealots who see this as their best chance to crush Gaza completely, and already have high level government and cabinet ministers attending & hosting talks to annex Gaza in part or completely
Cannot undo what he has done in the name of geopolitics, increasingly is getting hammered by Muslim voters in the US at large, and voters across the spectrum who sympathize with the Palestinian civilians, and a growing rebellion within his own party

There was a moral imperative in 1948 & 1967 to support Israel against outside aggression who openly stated they wanted to end Israel. There’s now a moral imperative to protect Gazans and their land as was agreed to in Oslo II.

Enjoy your mess Joe, you sleepwalked into this one, crisis by crisis by believing Bibi unconditionally until very recently. Because now Egypt is getting testy:

Netanyahu’s words have also alarmed Egypt which has said that any ground operation in the Rafah area or mass displacement across the border would undermine its 40-year-old peace treaty with Israel. The mostly sealed Gaza-Egypt border is also the main entry point for humanitarian aid.

That’s a big fucking issue, if Egypt is throwing that language around I doubt Jordan is far behind them. I’ll say it again, is the alliance with Israel worth it, if it jeopardizes US relations with literally every other nation in the gulf?

There was a moral imperative to protect Israel when it was massacring and ethnically cleansing 750,000 Palestinians from their land in 1948? No. There was and continues to be a moral imperative to do everything in order to end the existence of the Zionist entity.
- I don’t have the energy to dive into the pre-1948 history of Palestine beyond to say this;
  The Nakba was (and remains) a stain on humanity, as a direct result of European nations like Poland, France, and the UK callously using the holocaust as cover for their own anti-Semitic motivations to ‘offload’ their Jewish population into Palestine, at the expense of the locals
  The British especially, but the Allied powers as a whole, undermined the crumbing Ottoman Empire by promising self-determination to the Arab rebels, all while having already assigned and divided that land for themselves and their Allies after WW1
  Irgun and other Jewish militias were doing A LOT of terrorism, against both the British in charge during Mandatory Palestine, and the existing Arab population and civilians
  While acknowledging the above, the fact is that in 1948 there was a Jewish population there, ~~who were facing a second genocide attempt that decade.~~ The powers that be washed their hands of it, not unlike the Fall of Saigon or Afghanistan, yet we don’t learn from our interventionism. To unwind this problem requires either a robot peace that both sides want, or one of the two getting ethnically cleansed.
I hate Israel more than the next guy, but those nations likely wouldn't be sympathetic to the west's form of government anyways.
Israel is not a colony we created because we felt bad for Jewish people. Israel is a colony we created to be able to project power in the middle east.
So, it's not about getting Arab nations to like us. It's about having a place to park stealth bombers those countries don't have the technology to shoot down. It's about having a Mafia group willing to do our dirty work so we don't look that bad doing it
- A sad truth but this is the truth of Israel.

I had nothing to do with it, damnit.

Wow he said a slightly negative sentence about the terrorists he promised to limitlessly fund that genocides brown people. If anybody was wondering why he's unpopular it's this shit.

I think it was the great philosopher Eric Cartman who said it best

“You people who are for the war, you need the protesters. Because they make the country look like it's made of sane, caring individuals. And you people who are anti-war, you need these flag-wavers, because, if our whole country was made up of nothing but soft pussy protesters, we'd get taken down in a second. That's why the founding fathers decided we should have both. It's called "having your cake and eating it too."

Don’t get me wrong, I am definitely a soft pussy protestor, but Biden is clearly having his cake and eating it too.

The administration is clearly over Netanyahu, Blinken had some pretty strong comments on this week’s trip. He also met with Gantz, Eisenkot and Lapid so they’re clearly looking at the post-Netanyahu era.

The post-netanyahu era will look just like the netanyahu era, just like how US presidents will change but the military industrial complex marches along the same line.
- Israeli history would say otherwise. When a leader is forced out, there is a change in government policy and position.
Hard agree. People want Biden to call for Netanyahu to get the Noreaga treatment. That's not how displomacy works.
But this will be the end for Netanyahu, if Israel is to have any credibility. America has work to do on this front right now, too: by making sure that fat orange fuck that wants open war with Iran doesn't get reelected, and end up killing tens of millions of people after the cascade of failed mid-east states that would follow.

Directly after that sentence he proceeded to say in this short video:

He convinced the president of Mexico, Sisi to open the gate to allow humanitarian material into Gaza.

He has a stutter! Stop shaming him because he doesn't live up to your speaking privilege.
- Yes, he has a stutter and typically does a very good job of working through it.
  He didn’t stutter, go watch the linked video and stop shamelessly carrying water for him.
- Just click the video it's like 30 seconds. Biden paused for quite a while before making such a massive mistake.

He also said that the Palestinians and Israelis have one dream, one wish...

I'm having flashbacks to HRC's "Cut it out" moment. What a bunch of losers.

Is he irked yet? Because when Brandon gets irked, nothing happens.

Listened to the entire speech. He sounded like a disoriented muppet and he spent most of it defending himself... poorly. He sounded tilted and petty trying to answer questions from the reporters. He defended accusations of memory issues by sounding even more incompetent and citing the wrong country when talking about the middle east negotiations.

And the NY Times biggest takeaway was one line about the Israeli response in Gaza. This is why people shouldn't trust journalists. You're better off just finding primary sources and drawing your own conclusions.

Remember that we Iranians will soon force murrikunt out of middle east and whatever unfortunate president is there will be the clown of history. It just takes one more idiot like Trump to make a 'mistake' like killing Soleimani for Iran to gather enough support to storm American bases with the ballistic missles it sends satellites to space with. All the filthy American soldiers will be reduced to dust.

Well you are fun... And naïeve... And delusional... Ever considered getting professional help? Spouting rhetoric and slogans like you do really is out there.
I'm not even going to try to give any reasoned response to this, you're just... Dumb.
we can only hope

You guys are aware that if he cuts funding to Israel, he 100% loses the election, right? He's not funding Israel for the funzies, or because he just loves genocide. So why do you keep demanding he cut funding?

"Sure there's a genocide, but think of the votes!!" Meanwhile if you're told that biden will lose votes because he supports genocide, you'll probably respond with "but the other guy!!" So basically we just have to full-throatedly support genocide, huh?
- This is so stupid that if it were any other topic I'd accuse you of being a MAGA. Utterly nonsensical.
  Meanwhile if you’re told that biden will lose votes because he supports genocide, you’ll probably respond with “but the other guy!!”
  Yes. The other guy will make the genocide worse. It's a simple concept. You have one guy who's against the genocide but needs to support it, vs the other guy who is fully on board the genocide train and would happily make it worse.
  So yes. What about the other guy is an extremely important thing to say.
  So basically we just have to full-throatedly support genocide, huh?
  Not unless I want to? What a weird non sequitur. The only people jumping for joy that brown people are getting killed are right wingers. Whom you are helping by asking Biden to sacrifice himself.
explain this reasoning
- What's to explain? There's more potential voters for Biden who support Israel than oppose it. Especially given the inconsistent nature of the voters who oppose. Biden is already at risk of losing the election. He can't afford to alienate them.
  The far left is a small sliver of the Democratic party. And they don't matter in presidential elections because they mostly live in democratic states. Biden needs the support of moderates in swing states, and that means supporting Israel.
What? It's hurting him, not helping.
- If he cuts funding, a large number of people who are currently indifferent would then become very heavily against him.

In the same statement, he also calls El-Sisi president of Mexico. This comes also after he said that Hamas' response to the deal was "over the top" two days ago. Not sure if what he even said today has any bearing at all considering it's safe to assume that he doesn't know which country is which. What's ironic is that just before that he said "my memory is good".

I’ve called people the wrong name many times, my memories still fine, I think? Where am I? I’ve looked at someone else when talking to a colleague and called them by the name of the person I was looking at instead of who I was talking too.
I wouldn’t call that a huge issue, embarrassing sure, but not exactly a sign of bad memory.
- I called my bald 72 year old professor mommy yesterday.