At first it sounds like a typical case of bad behavior aboard airplanes. The Mexico City International Airport acknowledged in a statement Friday that a man had opened an emergency exit and walked out on a wing of a plane that was parked and waiting for takeoff Thursday.
At first it sounds like a typical case of bad behavior aboard airplanes.
The Mexico City International Airport acknowledged in a statement Friday that a man had opened an emergency exit and walked out on a wing of a plane that was parked and waiting for takeoff Thursday.
The airport said the man had been turned over to police.
But dozens of fellow passengers signed a written copy of a statement saying the airline made them wait for four hours without ventilation or water while the flight was delayed. According to photos of the statement posted online, fellow passengers said he acted “to protect everyone, with the support of everyone.”
I think this framing is extremely disingenuous in the title. It's the same kind of bullshit that resulted in the misframing of the McDonald's hot coffee suit.
I think the second sentence makes it not. If the guy didn't have a really good reason for doing so, the other people on the plane wouldn't have supported his actions. It's clickbaity. But the title to me makes it sound like the guy might be a hero.
I'll never ever understand why they do not simply let the passengers deboard the aircraft, nor why consumers put up with this kind of shoddy treatment. The terminal is right there. Let the people wait out whatever bad weather or maintenance issue the airline is having in the comfort of the terminal.
To demand anything less is simply a failure in logistics. The customer should never have to sit on a plane for any longer than an hour without it taking off once boarding is complete and the doors are sealed.
I always told myself I'd be the guy to do this if I ever found myself in a similar situation. To be honest, I'm not sure I could go for nearly 5 hours without the plane taxiing. 3 hours would probably be my limit before I decided it would be preferable to spend my time in a jail cell rather than an airplane.
What I’m wondering is what they’d do if you told the flight attendant you’re having chest pains and a shooting pain in your left arm. They’re not going to want to hold a person on board who may require emergency medical treatment. You might not make it back on board that particular flight, but with that kind of delay I’d probably just rather rebook anyway.
Based on personal experience, they take you off the plane to a medical team who will evaluate you, run an EKG for example. They can refuse to let you board another flight depending on their evaluation.
If the passengers disembark the airlines have to pay more money to the airport authority so they keep everyone on board to save money. They only car about how much money they can extract from passengers not their comfort.
I’m not sure why deplaning passengers would cost more money. The flight crew and terminal operators are still working throughout the period. The one thing I can see oosssibly causing an issue is going back to the terminal and u loading the luggage, but it literally happens every day. I can’t see it taking more than about 30 minutes based on my experiences.
Talking completely out of my rear end here but whenever something like that happens it is usually a liability issue. Neither the airline - let alone the crew want passengers anywhere outside their plane after boarding. There's a billion things that could go wrong if they left the plane. The crew could have likely fixed the issue with free drinks or something like that but then again, liability...
Deboarding happens all the time. Passengers board, malfunction detected, everyone is taken off the plane. There is absolutely no liability to deboarding.
The only issue was some manager's bonus was at risk if they didn't have 100% departures.
I got stuck in a similar situation flying out of Venezuela when I was 15. It was a group trip and circumstances wound up being that all the adults ended up on a prior flight that left on time, like 20 minutes before ours was supposed to. We were on the tarmac in Venezuelan summer for 5 hours for the flight to Miami. We had air, but no AC and they wouldn’t provide food or water for… reasons? It was fucking brutal. I can’t imagine not even having air…
Happened to me coming out of Hawaii too. Four hour delay for maintenance. We had working blowers, but no AC; The air from the blowers was warm and humid after probably ~15 minutes. And just like you said, no food or water service from the attendants until we’re in the air.
Then we get through the maintenance, and the pilot comes on and (sounding very annoyed) goes “so I’ve just been notified that I have to do a fat stack of paperwork before we can leave. Looking at this packet, it’ll probably take me about an hour. We’re just going to deboard the plane for now so we can all get some fresh air. Go ahead and leave your luggage stowed since we’ll be right back on as soon as I finish this. Go hit the Chilis while you wait for me to finish this maintenance packet.”
Plenty of systems require operation to know if they are functional or not. So it's pretty easy to think of ways that the aircraft can indicate a malfunction when it's first leaving the gate with passengers aboard.
Yeah, you can't really say "we started the engines but #2 wouldn't start, so we're continuing to the destination on one engine". Delaying/cancelling the flight due to a safety/maintenance issue is perfectly legitimate.
The issue is that after that, a) passengers are entitled to compensation depending on the delay, and b) you need to provide food/water/aircon or take the passengers back to the terminal.
dozens of fellow passengers signed a written copy of a statement saying the airline made them wait for four hours without ventilation or water while the flight was delayed. According to photos of the statement posted online, fellow passengers said he acted “to protect everyone, with the support of everyone.”
“The delay and lack of air created conditions that endangered the health of the passengers. He saved our lives,”
wow airlines can just do whatever and if you don't like it the cops will beat the shit out of you
Here is a list of people who were sold seats on an airplane, then threatened with violence and arrest when it turned out the airline didn't have the seats to sell. One woman tried to use a seat she had purchased for her 2 year old instead of her teenage son for whom it was originally purchased. She was told that if she didn't give up the seat that they would take custody of her kid from her. Another woman bought a seat for her child, and then the airline just sold the seat out from under her to a standby passenger and told her "too bad". She said she was afraid to speak up because the last time she had seen other passengers who insisted on actually getting what they paid for beaten up and dragged away by police. Don't worry though, instead of giving her the seat she purchased they gave her a lei.
I will admit that the headline is more unassuming than most clickbait, but it's a context issue. The headline doesn't really address what happened, and it's obvious that we're being baited to click through and learn why the passengers "support his actions".
It's like a headline saying "He cut open the child's chest and exposed her beating heart, but her parents support him", and you have to read the article to learn that he was a heart surgeon.
People were trapped in their seats for over 5 hours without adequate ventilation or hydration, and someone opened the door. Put that in the headline, and save the fact that people side with the decision to open the door in the article.
MEXICO CITY (AP) — At first it sounds like a typical case of bad behavior aboard airplanes.
The Mexico City International Airport acknowledged in a statement Friday that a man had opened an emergency exit and walked out on a wing of a plane that was parked and waiting for takeoff Thursday.
But dozens of fellow passengers signed a written copy of a statement saying the airline made them wait for four hours without ventilation or water while the flight was delayed.
The airport said in a statement that “yesterday a passenger on a flight to Guatemala opened an emergency door on a plane while it was stationary at a remote position, stood on a wing and then re-entered the cabin, without affecting the aircraft or anyone else.”
At least 77 passengers aboard the AeroMexico flight to Guatemala signed a statement handwritten on notebook paper, photos of which were posted on social media, supporting the man’s actions.
Airport authorities did not identify the man, and they declined to comment on whether he remains in custody or faces charges.
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