I feel sorry for men who have to wear pants

Yea, but let's design some to work on male bodies. Dresses are generally built for female body shapes, and rely on curves most guys just don't have in order to complete the shape - so we end up looking like Graveyard Barbie in them.

Guys tend to be a lot more oblong, and the overall design would need a rethink in order to actively work with that shape, instead of unsuccessfully trying to compensate for it.

No, I don't know how to do this.

Honestly, one thing I hate about being biologically male is that men's clothes all look so goddamn generic.

Oh, you're wearing a suit. It's. A suit. I guess. They all look the same.

You're wearing jeans. And a t-shirt. And they all look basically the same.

Khakis and a polo? You madlad. Well, you and everybody else at the country club. Who all look exactly the fucking same.

The thing that really gets me is, it didn't used to be this way. You look at pictures of people in paintings and whatnot and men had some wild shit going on. There was variety, if somewhat less, even into the early 20th. But... seriously tell me if I'm wrong here... it feels like we got to WWII and men's fashion just stopped. Like an entire generation of men put on uniforms and eighty years later we still haven't completely taken them off.

Some workmates and I petitioned our boss for the return of 70's office shorts over the course of one hot summer, to no avail.

As a man I never considered pants to be uncomfortable. They are the perfect mix of range of motion, hiding the private parts. and support. Dresses, skirts, and robes seem like a nightmare to wear. You either restrict your range of motion or have to constantly worry about showing your underwear. And I would wear boxer briefs underneath by choice anyhow, so I still end up wearing pants.

I think the bigger issue is that most of us men are too lazy to look for different kinds of pants and end up wearing the same stuff year-round. Which can indeed become uncomfortable due to changes in temperature. But that issue wouldn't be fixed by having access to dresses or robes. As again, some would either be too cold or too hot.

Nah no pity here, we got pockets best thing in the world you should probably feel more envious really

I wouldn't mind dressing in tunic+toga.

A friend has a degree in fashion design and her senior project was a clothing line that you ordered by measurement instead of men's/women's sizing so it was supposed to fit a person not a gender.

I think those are called kilts, and some of the cooler ones come with pockets (just like the cool lady dresses.

Completely agree. While both pants and dresses have their pros and cons, it should be everybody's own choice which one they want to wear. I hope that this is something that will change over time.

A few summers ago I brought up the idea that men should be allowed to wear shorts to the office if women can wear dresses and my boss literally laughed in my face. We work in a small-ish office and are not client facing so who tf cares what we wear? A while later they made a whole big deal about us being allowed to wear jeans to the office ever day (vs only on Fridays) you could hear a pin drop at the staff meeting. It was painful but satisfying to watch. Fuck those assholes…

At least if men wore more skirts and dresses then manufacturers would add pockets.

Always thought this guy was a boss!

Wear whatever the hell you want, right? Screw genders and made up rules around them.

Boxers-while-working gang rise up.

Bring back the kilt!

This is why I am nude 100% of the time.

Im pro men wearing whatever the f they want. Im not pro shaming men wearing pans to promote men wearing dresses

I mean, I don’t have to wear pants…

Pants are optional when entering my house however underwear is mandatory lol.

A lot of comments here are not wrong. Men’s clothing in general doesn’t have a lot of variety. 4 different colors of the same style shirt or more doesn’t count as variety. Look in a big box clothing store and you’ll see that the women’s section is almost always 2 to nearly 3x larger.

I have 4 kilts and wear them to work when I want to, almost as a dare to management so I can retire off a lawsuit. Utilikilts and Verillas have great kilts with pockets for workin' men that like a pretty skirt.

I am okay with pants

renormalize tunics

Kilts.

I'm cool with pants. It's one less thing to worry about, not having my crotch exposed or readily available.

Plus, if I fall, my legs are more protected

Any links to dress fashion for men?

I’m all for it. I hate wearing pants in the summer, but we’re not allowed to wear shorts. However, no one can refuse me wearing a long skirt or dress!

I may be in the minority on this, but I wear pants to work every day, even in the summer, and it doesn't feel uncomfortable. I just like wearing my jeans, and if anything, I've gotten more flak from friends about not wearing shorts enough

I agree with your overall sentiment, but I'm good keeping my ugly knees and hairy legs covered.

My boss made it very clear that while the pictures in our dress code handbook are of the general gender stereotypes, doesn't mean we are holding people to that. As long as you are business casual it doesn't matter how you represent.

But I like my pants...

And skirts. They are soooo comfy, but it's not socially acceptable to go outside in one.

I feel the opposite. I wouldn't wear a dress even if it was socially acceptable, they don't look comfy.

I wear my kilt all the time, most comfortable thing ever

Getting my kilt ready as we speak…

I agree. There should be a turn back to the robe-like garments that are used by everyone in certain cultures. It's comfy and it looks regal as fuck. And with the heat waves we've been getting we are gonna have to adapt to our environment where we can

Men, let me introduce you to sarongs. My cousin was roommates with a Ukrainian guy and after he tried wearing it he basically got converted. He bought a dozen to be brought back to Ukraine. With the conflict going on I hope he's safe now.

I don't know if I would wear a dress, but I'm all for making skirts gender neutral.

I tried to use this argument with a boss during the summer, when she told me shorts weren't "professional"... She didn't bite when I pointed out the variety of "professional" female vs male attire, and that no summer male alternative to pants exists. I pointed out the skirt she was wearing during that scorching day as an example.

But I worked primarily in the field and none of my Clients nor their care facilities cared, so joke's on her and I wore what I wanted anyway. Dressed in pants on days I went into the office or brought Clients to one of my (former) organization's facilities.

But I am totally okay with this trade-off given that men's clothes actually have pockets! I'll sweat my balls off in exchange for functional pockets any day..

Even shorts would be a great first step!

Agreed, 100%. I grew up in a hot area and worked in offices where long pants were the standard. I was always jealous that ladies could get all that ventilation and I was stuck with boiler pipes on my legs.

Technology in pants has gotten so good that jeans which used to be uncomfortable have now gotten thin, stretchy, and soft while still looking the same

I don't think skirts are gender for me personally (cis man), but if it wouldn't draw any extra attention to me, I'd consider trying them.

Maya Kern's skirts have pockets that can fit a Nintendo Switch in them. Consider the pocket possibilities if they made "men's skirts" (or just reasonable pockets for everyone). Imagine... Being able to adjust how you're sitting without your remote car keys setting off your car alarm.

Reminder that guys can wear Kilts if they want to

I just got talked to about wearing shorts by my manager. I told her I'd just wear a dress then. I haven't found one I like yet.

No need for dresses. Just make baggy cargo pants (and cargo shorts fo those of us who , unlike me, like shorts) fashionable and business code compliant.

As a man I appreciate your concerns. However, in my country the problem is much larger on the women's side as female professionals are struggling for their rights to wear trousers in professional settings. The recent progress? The lawyers just got allowed to wear pants instead of skirts only.

Why the fuck is this something that must be permitted in the first place? My rights to wear a kilt can wait until women can wear pants.

skirts and tunics were good enough for ancients, sure, but they had no bikes or OSHA

Shorts are also comfy though.

I'm a chemist, we're basically glued to our jeans regardless of gender. Yes, summer is hell for us.

Got it. Utilikilts for all!

We have kilts... And we look great in them.

I wear a kilt. It really is more comfortable than pants.

I actually remember seeing a blog post, too, showing a fashion line of skirts for men. Not for cross dressers either (but no judgement if that's you). It was marketed as a style that still made the men appear masculine. I forget the brand name, but I was intrigued.

First and foremost: people should wear the clothes that make them comfortable... so long as it is appropriate for the setting (so avoid the tube top and jorts in a meeting with the c-suite).

That said: I have seen a LOT of people, across the entire gender spectrum, who just insist on wearing the most uncomfortable clothing imaginable. Super tight pants/skinny jeans, pencil skirts so constricting they have to shuffle around, etc. If you are at Da Club then... sure. But it results in people who just IMMEDIATELY need to get out of their pants when they get home and put on some sweats and blah blah blah.

Same with the other direction and having incredibly baggy clothing that just feels more "heavy" than anything else.

Personally? I know what cuts of pants are comfortable for me. I am not going to wear my jeans on a hike or while climbing just like I am not going to wear my "tech pants" to a business meeting. But they are all comfortable enough that I can wear them all day and I change pants when I shower rather than the moment I close the front door.

I tried on my wife's skirt and walked around the house one day.

Easy, breezy, like A/C on my balls. Shit was kinda nice.

You had me at no pants.

Nobody's making me wear pants. I've worn garments similar to dresses and skirts and I'm not a fan at all.

All clothes should be accepted based on functionality and practicality regardless of gender.

It already exists and is called a sarong. That is a traditional Sri Lankan dress for males that slowly went away after western colonization. Bonus fun fact: Arthur C. Clarke used to rock this style.

I'm a woman and I'm confused as to how you find dresses and skirts comfortable. They're a pain in the ass, uncomfortable, look terrible on most people i see in them and pants are way more comfy if you buy the right ones. And most offices are freezing cold year round anyway.

Tbf, regarding dresses, skirts and other gowns: Your legs never get pinched, you can just fold your legs up under you when sitting down, as a guy you can just lift it up to pee and don't risk getting your member stuck in the zipper, as a girl, if you have the proper underwear, you don't need to take of your pants, many long skirts actually come with pockets or you can mod pocket slits into them and wear historical pockets under them, you can have them in any length, some pants lengths are silly, skirts allow more air ciruclation, just wear them made of the weather appropriate material...

But honestly, as a guy who grew up doing late High Medieval Living History (about the time of Friedrich II of the HRE), dresses are frigging lit. Just pull it over, secure with your belt and pouch, put on your shoes, if it's cold get your cape. DONE. Go out there and look like the Anti-Christ, King of Jerusalem and "principum mundi maximus"

I'm a guy and really like wearing long skirts. They're just so comfy for me and i can't wear them outside =(

Sarongs are the answer. In warmer months I wear them often.

I love to wear dresses! Unfortunately the social stigma is still strong, even in progressive environments. I’d love to see a world where dressing is not a gendered matter.

Legit one of the nicest parts about WFH, I just wear loose basketball shorts. Feels so nice.

ong you get used to it after a while. it would be cool tho if it was socially acceptable for dudes to wear dresses. sun dresses look really comfy during the summer time.

Thank you. I get to work from home for 2 days a week and I dont wear anything for the 8 hours lol

I've almost stopped wearing shorts completely. Except for swimming. I now wear UPF sun protected pants and sun hoodies most of the time outside. Hate sunscreen but hate being burned more. I've watched my dad get a lot of potentially cancerous moles removed. I'm trying to prevent that

What kind of dreses should we wear as men, pretty pink maid outfits or black maid outfits?

Kilts should work too.

Ties are even worse.

I quite like pants and am very uncomfortable in a dress, so I wouldn't want to give up pants for dresses.

I would never wear a dress. Pants are fine with me. I'd be perfectly content just wearing jeans and a t shirt for the rest of my life.

An underrated aspect of dresses (IMO) is that it's all one garment - no deciding which shirt goes with which pants - it's all one thing. Of course you still need to choose other things like shoes, but it feels refreshingly simple to just have one garment. I guess you get the same benefit with jumpsuits but people wear those less.

I've often complained about how females have so many more options for clothing than men. Men get shirts and pants. You can choose to have long or short sleeves (same with pants). You can accessorize with a belt too! maybe a watch if you like. Beyond that uhh, that's all you get lol

I like pants ?

I used to feel really sad about having to wear pants all the time. Some might have even called it dysphoric.

Only if we can get rid of bras. Thats the trade!

I still have to wear a full suit :'(

If I actually wanted to wear a dress, I totally would. Somehow I can’t get over the idea of everyone looking up my crotch as soon as I sit down.

I've never wanted to wear a dress, I do however enjoy the fact that I can work naked from home.

nah it's alright

If it's not comfy, I'm not wearing it.

I would gladly wear a Roman senatorial toga all the time.

Middle easterners wear a juba. Which is a long flowy robe that is not unlike a dress.

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I always say this! I don't understand how some women DON'T wear dresses. There's nothing better on a hot day.

A few years ago I was in a music video from a local band were I was dressed in drag. A skirt and a light shirt. It was one of those very hot summers and we'd be basically dancing in a basement in the video. I was happy like a little princess, jumping around between takes while everybody was sweating their balls off.

We want male manly dresses NOW!

I’ll be honest, I wear stretchy scrubs for my job and cannot imagine more comfortable clothing. That being said; never tried a dress lol

Don't feel sorry, I have shorts. And my pants are tech ones, so they're better than a dress anyways.

With this heat I am seriously considering looking in to kilts or just straight up getting a skirt. I don't know that it will be any nicer tbh.

Why wear a dress when you can just get naked instead? lennyface.jpg

I work remotely, and we're hardly ever on camera. I can be naked if I want.

I usually wear a tshirt and drawstring lounge shorts, no underwear.

I wear shorts to the office when it's hot out

I feel blessed that I only have to wear pants.

this is why i am naked at home all the time. Clothes are so restrictive. bball shorts are a good second. Skirt/Kilt could be even more comfortable.

Pants are cool and all, but having to shave almost daily just to keep up appearances is worse. Women can go ages without shaving their legs (some don't even grow hair on their legs, so they don't even have that), and nobody will notice. For a guy, you're basically a bum off the street if your facial hair growth is like 2 or 3 days old. You might have that sweet spot where a day or two of growth looks "rugged", but it only lasts for a few minutes and only in the right lighting, then you somehow cross over into looking like a pathetic alcoholic.

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A few years ago, back in the Netherlands, the male bus drivers of a certain public transportation company were forced to wear long pants by their 'managers'. Their female colleagues had a more comfortable uniform with a skirt. As a protest, a number of male bus drivers started borrowing the uniforms of their femaile colleagues. HR gave in. Good.

Skirts, dresses, capris, shoulder length sleeves shirts... I'm over here suffering in long pants and long sleeves all summer.

I am fine but thank you for your concern.

The boys always need more ventilation. Always.

but nobody “has to” wear pants. im not wearing any, and if I can do it anyone can

at any previous job I would agree, but I work in a datacenter now that is not only quite cold, but also has lots of strong sources of blowing air that could be problematic with the wrong dress. Whenever I go to renfest I wear my kilt and fucking love it though.

Was hot enough the other day I pulled out the ranger panties at work, no shame. Those are good enough tbh!

Southeast Asian batik clothes are a nice alternative to western clothing (for both men and women)

Here they can be considered both formal and casual so you can wear it for anything. I'm a big fan of batik pants myself.

The Scottish are way ahead of ya. those kilts look pretty comfortable.

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I already see more men wearing skirts in summer and it brings me so much joy. I've said it before and will say it again; clothes don't need to be gendered. If something looks good on a woman it will look good on a man too, and vice versa.

I have a skirt to wear around the house :)

I can wear a kilt and it's like a dress (well, skirt) but nobody calls me a faggot.

Chino pants are comfy enough for me.

Been wearing a kilt for years. I will never go back. Pants are tight, restrictive, and lack much needed ventilation. And let's be honest, they weren't designed to accommodate the male anatomy. Much better to have a kilt and enjoy the breeze between your knees.

Yeah, but it's worth the trade off. Men's clothes typically have pockets FOR DAYS.

Bring back togas.

I have to wear dresses on Wednesday’s and Thursday’s.

I disagree. Incredibly uncomfortable.

And I hate the sexual appropriation. Especially coerced.

To all the men saying they're comfortable enough in jeans / chinos / whatever... you should TRY wearing a dress in a hot summer. There is a little bit of adjusting to get used to it, but after that damn they feel amazing. Women are so lucky to wear these whenever they want to.

You can of course decide you're comfortable enough in whatever, but an informed decision is always the better thing.

My wife would disagree

Keep paving the way!

I have a long tee to wear at home and god it's awesome Can imagine dresses give a similar feeling

I've got some nicer looking golf type pants that work really well in the heat. IT's been over 90 for months already, and i'm in Canada where we're not used to this being here for so long. I'm pretty much dri fit from head to toe when it's over 23c now and it's at least as light and flowy as a dress haha.

I work from home so I wear my pajamas or boxer shorts all day and there is no one to criticize me.

You can feel sorry but i love my pants

I prefer shorts or capri pants over pants and dresses. So much more comfy, and I don't have to worry about showing someone my junk by accident, while still getting that nice air flow of comforting relief.

Hey, I'm retarded but is this a trans thing...?

@atomicorange I've been kilt-only for two years now and the very idea of ever having to wear trousers again is outright horrible.
I've also tried skirts, dresses. and women's things in general but holy crap most of it is just wildly uncomfortable and not remotely functional. The entire Western clothing industry is caught in a serious rut

One of my airbnb guests wears a kilt all summer. He says he is surprised more people don't because it is a lot cooler.

I’m all in favor of this. Now we just have to get everyone else on board. And like others have said, find dresses that actually look good on men. I (m) have been trying out dresses for a while and finding something that looks good on me is a challenge.

Shorts >>>>>>>>

I guess the closest we got are priestly robes and kilts then.

Don't feel bad for us. I like my pants. Even on a blistering hot day at work they keep me safer from burns and cuts and when I'm out hiking in jeans I don't have tick problems

I read this and immediately thought of anprims for some reason.

I'd need some kind of a tool belt under that dress to haul all my stuff

I personally strongly prefer pants but I support those who don't want to wear them (as long as they're wearing a dress or something in public). At home though, you do you, whatever.

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Swedish transit strikers and everyone else.

There was a summer long ago I regularly wore a Sari going to the bar. Do it for work would be a bit of a stretch.

I have dresses and skirts but rarely wear them because they don't feel comfy for me at all. I have to pay extra attention to how I sit and walk and that adds extra stress to my day for me. I do like to wear something loose when I'm home, though, and wish I could wear that outside more often because it's much more comfy than tight, neat clothes.

Sometimes I feel like going full on kilt, but those things are quite thick, all things considered. Might help to aerate the crown jewels, but I'm not too sure if the overall experience wouldn't still be on the warm side.

I'm good with joggers.

Guys generally wear skirts or kilts in protest. We had a guy at work (US) wear his kilt a lot in the summer, as intended btw, as a protest for allowing shorts in a workplace that doesn't face customers. He got reprimanded exactly once. He is Scottish in ancestry and the kilt was real, although he also had one that looked like cargo pants too with pockets all over it.

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I would miss my pockets though. Can I just wear basketball shorts everywhere?