So tired of Adobe. They're part of the problem.

I'm tired of professional products using such grossly unprofessional language. "Whoa there!" Fuck off.

Fuck Adobe, not supporting Linux, and now not even supporting Firefox, the once most used browser? Whoever pirates their crappy software deserves a statue.

"Whoa there!"

Go fuck yourself with that fellow kids corporate speak. That pisses me off so much, way more than it probably should.

Any software company that uses monthly subscriptions as their business model can fuck right off. Let us own what we buy.

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Are we surprised that Adobe is doing this? Adobe is exactly who I would've suspected adapting this bullshit immediately.

This is the main issue with that web DRM "security" shit that Google is trying to push. They have such a great market share now that big websites can now afford to put a check "only for Chrome" losing a very small percentage of users

As another comment suggests, try to change your user-agent. Chameleon is great.

Try using this: User-Agent Switcher and Manager

Get a user agent switcher extension

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Not supporting Firefox is WAY down the list of crimes Adobe has committed against their customers. I’m not all surprised by this post

There isn't anything that Adobe charges money for that you can't find an open source alternative.

I will recommend GIMP or Krita usage even more

Are you kidding - they basically invented the problem. They were one of the first to move to the "rent your software" model way back when

www.photopea.com

Try a user agent changer

This is also the company that charges you to cancel your membership. Like, 60 bucks or something, sometimes more, to stop using their product. Horrible company. Bloatware, laggy software anyways.

Adobe, a company which developed nothing but just bought off 3rd party software by acquiring the actual developing company, and stitched everything together somehow, like a Frankenstein's Creature, and finally sold it as a service.

Thank you, but no thank you.

Same applies for Autodesk.

I've refused to use Adobe for a while because of their bullshit. Their main product I care about is Lightroom, but Darktable is a perfectly fine replacement for it

They're not part of the problem. They're the problem.

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Fuck Adobe. As an industry professional I have to use multiple offerings from them, and they have ALL gotten worse, rather than better. It all started going downhill when they started their bullshit subscription-only model.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/culturehustle/abode-a-suite-of-world-class-design-and-photography-tools

Time for #abode , I want to believe ;)

So, you can't use adobe with a widely-used and -accepted browser, you must use one of the notoriously unscrupulous and anti-privacy tech giants' browsers. Nothing worrying there! /s Also, more of "Bullshit As Usual" from adobe

I have been removing Adobe from my life starting way back with Flash, long before it was discontinued. Then Acrobat and the final thing to go was when I switched to Affinity Photo and Designer and ditched Photoshop. It works every bit as well for me but I never was a Photoshop power user. For a long time the only company that showed up when I searched online to see if my email had been pwned was of course Adobe and that was over a decade ago.

I’d seriously consider if your task can be accomplished with any other software. Personally I find LibreOffice Draw to be a perfectly adequate Adobe Acrobat Pro replacement for most situations. I know everyone has a different workflow though.

User Agent Switch

https://webcompat.com/

Does a user agent change this

Although this isn't convenient. You could always file an issue on WebCompat to fix this.

I miss the days of Creative Suite. You know, when you can just buy the thing once and do whatever you want with it for the rest of your life?

I actually miss the days of Macromedia even more. Those round icons with the weird typography are just timeless. Especially the Flash logo.

This is exactly why I switched from Photoshop to Affinity. It's just as good and somewhat even better than PS and it's a one time purchase forever. I will never look back.

Thank God I never had to learn any Adobe products, one of the most anti-consumer companies out there.

Adobe has been a constant frustration for me. I was having issues with Acrobat DC on Windows 10 and ended up having to uninstall the 64 bit version and installing the legacy 32 bit version in its place.

I want to use something else for PDF editing but our company refuses to consider alternatives.

"I held off on Windows 10 for as long as I could until my job required it."

Good, users like you are the reason ransomware happens. Fucking update your shit. Windows 7 isn't secure anymore.

Their billing has been shady as fuck for two decades. This company is the worst.

I love how on most sites it works with a user agent switcher

I hijack this to inform that LR for Android can be revanced.

Looked it up and apparently its for tiktoks and AI. So, youre not missing out on much.

I was really hoping that the current AI tool revolution would finally kick Adobe off but with them buying Figma (which shouldn't have been allowed by anti trust in the first place) I don't see that happening yet. One day though.

Always have been. All along the way there's been an issue on sites or software and Adobe has been there

Fuck Adobe

Hear hear. If you make the mistake of subscribing to Adobe canceling is like pulling teeth. Can't stand them as a company.

Yep, fuck em.

Its a clear sign they feel threatened. Their fall is near.

Remember when they killed Flash? That sucked

Proprietary software has basically just turned into a giant grift and it makes me not want to use any of it anymore.

Nah, honestly I get this. They likely don’t let you run it in Safari either.

The problem is that each browser use different rendering and JavaScript engines. They all follow the same spec, but implement things differently, and at a different pace. Firefox tends to be really speedy with adding features.

Rendering is one thing, but for web apps the main issue is how they each implement JavaScript differently. Chromium uses the V8 engine, Safari uses JavaScriptCore, and Firefox uses SpiderMonkey.

Each one of these implementations handle certain JS features differently. Array.prototype.sort is a good example.

This means that when developing your application you need to keep track of what differences each browser has, and write/use polyfills or conditionals to ensure that your methods work as expected on all platforms.

This becomes cumbersome quickly, and easily leads to a messy code base and technical debt as the application grows.

It further complicates testing since you’ll need to test each release on each browser.

The easy cop-out solution is to just support a single platform, and direct people not on that platform to use the browser you’ve developed for.

The go-to choice there is obviously Chrome, since it has the most users. Photoshop Express is a free application developed with the hopes of hooking people onto buying a subscription. Thus they’d want as big a reach as possible. It would make no sense to develop for Firefox and push people to use that instead from a business perspective, most people wouldn’t just download a second browser just to use an app.

Edit: you can obviously spoof your user agent and bypass the check that way. Some features might be broken in Firefox though, and I wouldn’t expect a fix.

You could try changing your spoofing your Userscript, then you could keep using Firefox.

Visited the same site from my browser. Didn't get this though.

I've tried switching from Lightroom to Darktable and/or Rawtherapee, but found neither to produce the results I wanted. Any other alternatives I should try?

I'm so glad I'm not working in an industry that requires me to be beholden to that garbage company.

As a web dev imma play devils advocate and say I get it. Cross browser support is hard sometimes and Firefox has some of the weirdest quirks.

That being said this isn't some hobby project its a multi billion dollar company so absolutely they could be doing better.

Wow. Before, I could use it with no issues, but then recently, it would just randomly log me out (even on Chrome), so I had to use the app on the Microsoft Store. (Which I'm pretty sure is just a web browser)

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Why do you use adobe products? I tried Photoshop about 10 years ago, when i was developing a DLC for a game (multilayer textures up to 4096*4096 with addition, substract effects with AO map, normal, specular maps) it was totally ok with GIMP, but with photoshop it crashed as used about 6x more RAM than gimp for the same file 🤣 and i didnt see any improvement over GIMP. Maybe now it would be different due to the AI things in ps, or maybe not 😆

It is no revelation that this slow shit gradually moves into obscurity, if you can't catch up with the development of web and implement features on time you're out of competition