Hasbro laying off Wizards of the Coast staff is baffling
Hasbro laying off Wizards of the Coast staff is baffling — and could lead to a brain drain
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Kind of checks out for me. OneDnD got utterly kneecapped by their Pinkerton shit, after they pulled that jackass stunt then community goodwill was at an all-time low, and introducing a system to replace a popular system is REALLY hard even under ideal circumstances, so it's not a surprise that I'm far from the only DM that hasn't given OneDnD the time of day.
Couple that up with the rampant powercreep in new 5e books and the utter mediocrity of most premade modules' storytelling and content (although tbf the true power and appeal of DnD is for a DM to make a world that's alive and can react to you saying and doing anything, and putting that into a module's story is also extremely difficult), then I and most other core fans that I know have just been homebrewing absolutely all our content for literally years, even going so far as to manually fix higher levels of play with our own errata (as the game is notorious for being completely dysfunctional in terms of balance once you get past level 9)
Can you explain how after lvl 9 it gets unbalanced? And how to fix it?
As a new dm I feel pretty interested in that, as I will reach this point in the near future.
P.s. Still using no expansions, just base.
Certainly!
This will be a slightly edited excerpt from this homebrew I've been making here, for Fully Playable Actual Dragons- I deemed the only way to make the dragons actually FEEL like dragons was to build them to start at level 10-11, with the first 10 levels representing the features from their race as a dragon- but that in turn meant that I needed to actually start fixing high level play, as well as writing out a guide in my homebrew for other DMs to help guide them if they wanted to allow a dragon PC. (This template is still a work in progress on the balance front, I'd be honoured if you use it and I've been tinkering with it for months, but please don't expect it to be perfect)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eFc2qQTY9P3ym9fyMNYHC_mIogpt9kNrOdm5n_yj1cs/edit
So as preamble, the game balance gets pretty awkward from levels 9 to 12 (which is almost certainly why BG3 caps out at level 12), and completely breaks at level 13.
This is for a few reasons, but there are two main stinkers.
AC at higher levels of DnD does not keep up with hit rates. In official content, then the highest AC given to any creature is 25, seen on the Tarrasque and Tiamat. This ignores the fact that three main things can raise hit rates, and only two things raise AC- Magic items, Ability Scores, and Proficiency. Having no way to add proficiency to AC means it becomes badly irrelevant beyond 13th level for most tank builds, and the problem is only made worse by the fact that the game puts magical armour at a truly massive premium compared to magic weapons.
Below, I’ve created a table of levels against the suggested non-boosted AC for an average creature of that threat rating, which doesn’t factor in magic armour, spells, or AC-boosting class features, but DOES assume that opponents will have level-appropriate stats and proficiencies, and that players will be outfitted with level-appropriate magic items (acquiring enough +3 weapons for the entire party at around level 12). AC should be raised by a further 2-4 points for an enemy with high AC, and if it’s a low AC enemy, just use official numbers lol.
Remember, dragons are meant to be high AC, and Challenge Rating is a fucking awful system, so most adult dragons need a bit of an AC buff.
1: 15 (Compare to an ‘optimized’ first level AC tank, a fighter with chain mail, a shield, and Defence Style- they have 19AC, which is within that 2-4 points for a fairly balanced High AC)
2: 15
3: 16
4: 16
5: 17
6: 17
7: 18
8: 18
9: 19
10: 19
11: 20
12: 20
13: 21 (At this point, martial humanoids should have their first +3 weapon, and a hit modifier of about +13, which can easily shred vanilla Tiamat with a little Advantage)
14: 21
15: 22
16: 22 (Raphael from BG3 is here. He has 26AC and more HP than the Tarrasque, and he’s not considered unfair as a threat to a party of level 11 to 12 PCs, just tanky.)
17: 23
18: 23
19: 24
20: 25 (Tiamat should have 28 to 29 AC in order to come across as reasonably durable for the strongest villain in DnD)
To finish this point, DO NOT think that every enemy must have this much AC or a hitrate to match. If your players have characters (dragon or humanoid) who have 21AC, then never be afraid to give an encounter a swarm of weaker foes who have a measly +5 or +6 to hit. Players fucking love getting attacked ten times and being told that 9 out of 10 arrows simply bounce off them harmlessly, and the tenth that hits them doesn’t do that much damage (This can also help with both encounter pacing and the game’s narrative).
Saving Throws get even more broken than AC at higher levels, and are quite possibly the main reason that BG3 and other official content tends to cap out at level 12. If you don’t have proficiency in a DC19 Save, then your chances of passing are horrifically low, even with a pretty solid ability score to draw on- but +2 to the save from a 15 in Wisdom absolutely won’t cut it. This is why Draconic Indomitability (which is pretty much the same as a Fighter’s Indomitable) exists, as most Wisdom and Intelligence Saves at high levels are effectively instant kills if your enemies are smart about using them. And even then, Indomitable is flawed- Advantage is much less effective with a low base chance of success.
For these reasons, I highly suggest that you introduce your own homebrew for your humanoid players designed to allow them to get some bonuses to their Saving Throws- either make a version of Epic Resistance that doesn’t require them to have Draconic Indomitability, or a magic item that gives them a bonus to saving throws (this won’t be quite as necessary if someone is running a high-charisma Paladin)
In addition to the math starting to break down at high levels, DND has a shitty magic system and a shitty recovery system.
A lot of spells are sort of flashy big deal fight enders. Like yeah there's magic missile but there's also Sleep. Sleep just ends the fight sometimes. The higher level spells tend to be more problematic.
As players level up, they get more spells per long rest (except warlocks, but more on that in a bit).
The game is allegedly designed around 6-8 medium encounters that slowly wear down your resources.
Most people don't play like that. They do like one big encounter per rest. Maybe two. Definitely not 6 medium ones and not even four hard ones.
Well now you have your wizard and cleric loaded up with firepower that should take them through six scenes instead using all of them at once. And the other classes that aren't built around long rest, like fighter warlock rogue monk, all suck in comparison.
It's not as obvious at low levels when the wizard has like four spell slots. When they have 20? That's a problem. They can just fireball every round.
It also causes a side problem in the decision space for long rest casters is big, and gets bigger over time. Your average intelligence player can probably manage having six spell slots and 20 options to pick from, maybe. A lot of people will struggle with 20 slots and 200 options. And they will slow down the table with them.
Anyway. You could do more encounters to wear them down but a. Most people don't want to play that way and b. That's really bad for pacing.
Tldr:
This is Corporate Wage Theft.
Its not baffling, it's the stock market.
Simple basic, and to the point.
If you're a publicly traded company, you're legally required to be fucking dogshit.
You have to meet quarterly expectations, and if you don't you have to fire people to meet the """needs""" of the shareholders.
Father of 3, 300K in debt: "But we're in the black! we're making bank!"
Wealthy Geriatric 110 year old corpse: "yes, but we didn't make enough bank, so you're fired."
This is a system of the utterly deranged.
Because they can.. what have you done for me lately. I.e. unless your tied to a UPCOMING money making project.... Your not needed.
Probably just using current market uncertainty to clean house of expensive people.
Wizards is a subsidiary of Hasbro, doesn't matter how good they do in the open market. They have internal politics. So somebody has an OKR... to trim the fat. Make the numbers go up to the right.
fucking pointless megacorps ruin anything of quality chasing maximum short term returns
I'm going further than that. I'm saying it's not going to maximize revenue. I'm saying it's just somebody chasing a promotion