Will the Georgia election workers see any of the $148 million award from Rudy Giuliani?
Will the Georgia election workers see any of the $148 million award from Rudy Giuliani?
Rudy Giuliani has been ordered to pay nearly $150 million in damages to former Georgia election workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss, who he defamed following the 2020 presidential election.
Rudy Giuliani has been ordered to pay nearly $150 million in damages to former Georgia election workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss, whom he defamed following the 2020 presidential election.
But as with all major jury awards, the question is whether Freeman and Moss will see any of that money.
Giuliani, the former New York mayor and onetime attorney to former President Donald Trump, has vowed to appeal the jury’s verdict. During the trial, he and his attorneys repeatedly said that he already doesn’t have funds to cover his various debts, but it’s unclear how much the former New York mayor actually has.
Attorneys for Freeman and Moss said in court they had tried to find out Giuliani’s net worth, but because he hadn’t responded to many of their subpoenas in the lawsuit, they couldn’t determine a figure.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/29/realestate/rudy-giuliani-apartment-sale-nyc.html
Giuliani's NYC apartment is up for sale. They should get that piece of property immediately.
it's quite possible there are loans against that and other properties he may have, and lenders get paid first.
How does one just ignore a subpoena from a judge in a case like this? If I did this I would be held in contempt and locked up until I agreed to comply, wouldn't I?
This was a civil case. His failure to appear previously cost him $230,000 in fines which go to the plaintiffs, iirc. He likely figured that he was going to lose a massive judgement anyway, so paying 230k (if he pays it) is a small price to avoid discovery that could open the door to other lawsuits.
They won't see all of it but they'll get something. It'll get reduced in appeal and then he'll declare bankruptcy and it'll get reduced more and put in a payment plan but I can't see a bankruptcy judge letting him off from this entirely.
Still plenty for a normal person to receive $300k/yr or something.
If we learned anything from the Alex Jones case, it's that bankruptcy will not protect you.
Does he even have any money? I thought he was near bankruptcy two years ago when he was begging Trump for money.
'Bankruptcy' means an inability to pay your debts. Can he pay $1.5b? Probably not, but does he have money? Yes, he does. He is a multi-millionaire owning at least 5 properties and spends tens of thousands each month on his 'expenses'.
Don't confuse bankruptcy with poverty.
They'll get all he has left and this is before the Smartmatic and Dominion lawsuits.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Attorneys for Freeman and Moss said in court they had tried to find out Giuliani’s net worth, but because he hadn’t responded to many of their subpoenas in the lawsuit, they couldn’t determine a figure.
Ryan Goodman, a former special counsel at the Department of Defense, told Burnett that it’s likely the election workers will collect only “a fraction” of the awarded amount.
He also owed more than $1 million to defense attorneys who’ve helped him on other matters, prompting them to sue him this year, and hadn’t paid nearly $60,000 for years-old phone bills.
Yet at times he’s had help – including from Trump – to try to fundraise to offset some of his debts, and he was able to take a private plane to his arrest on criminal charges related to 2020 election interference in Georgia this summer.
That issue, according to people familiar with the case, may have to be decided by the courts at a later time, and it’s possible he could still be on the hook for what the jury awards Moss and Freeman, even if he goes into bankruptcy.
In a different high-profile defamation case against far-right personality Alex Jones brought by the families of Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting victims, the courts have had to look at this type of issue.
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