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  • this headline is highly misleading! First of all its only one (!) state in germany, also a very far right one and those rules only apply for that very state.

    The other thing is you do not have to 'support' Israel you have to accept Israel as a independent state, their borders, that they are allowed to defend themselves and you shouldn't say or take part in antisemitism related activities.

    You can still criticize Israel very much for the way they are fighting the Hamas and the civilian casualties that they are causing, you don't have to say yes and amen to everything Israel is doing and also you don't have to support them. You are just not allowed to debugger their existence...

    And I highly doubt that our other states will follow this in any way...

    • Well the point is, that the whole "support the existence of the country" is very vague. Do I disqualify if I think that the illegal settlers need to ge the fuck out of the Westbank? Of what if I would boycott products procuded in Israel? Does that count as not supporting the existence of the country?". Which borders of what year or which treaty are meant by this? Would Israel consisting of only half of Jerusalem still count?

      Now you add that this law was made by the state in Germany with the biggest amount of Nazis and it all seems very dishonest and just another ploy to fuck with immigrants. So I wouldn't surprise at all if they will apply this law in the strictest form possible to deny as many applicants as they can. That whole "every critique of Israel is antisemitism" stick Netanyahu and his cronies are doing to discredit everyone even slightly critical of them seems exactly like what Sachsen will do with this new law.

      • Well the point is, that the whole “support the existence of the country” is very vague. Do I disqualify if I think that the illegal settlers need to ge the fuck out of the Westbank? Of what if I would boycott products procuded in Israel? Does that count as not supporting the existence of the country?". Which borders of what year or which treaty are meant by this? Would Israel consisting of only half of Jerusalem still count?

        I think in general this is more aimed at the idiots who sing the "from the river to the sea" and want to get rid of Israel. In the native form of those articles there is no word of "support" you just have to acknowledge Israel its right to exist and dont have to be a racist fuck. So I would say the bar to gain a german citizenship is pretty low ;)

    • Thanks for the check, but still, this is kinda shitty.

  • This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Zieschang previously said her ministry had sent a decree to all Saxony-Anhalt municipalities informing them of the policy in late November.

    The decree instructs authorities to pay close attention to whether an applicant exhibits antisemitic attitudes and states that "obtaining German citizenship requires a commitment to Israel's right to exist."

    In a letter to local authorities, the Saxony-Anhalt state Interior Ministry said naturalization is to be denied to foreigners who engage in activities directed at Germany's liberal democratic order as outlined in the country's Basic Law.

    Local authorities have been instructed to deny an applicant's naturalization request if they refuse to sign the declaration.

    Germany, which claims a special historical responsibility to protect Jews after the horrors of the Holocaust — in which Germany's then Nazi government organized the industrial-scale murder of over 6 million European Jews during the Second World War — has called Israel's security its own "Staatsräson," or "reason of state," as then Chancellor Angela Merkel proclaimed in an address to the Israeli parliament in 2008.

    There has been considerable discussion in Germany regarding the issue of antisemitic attitudes among migrants who harbor resentment against Israel, with pro-Palestinian demonstrations across the country becoming flashpoints for antisemitic behavior in the wake of the October 7 Hamas terror attacks in southern Israel.


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