2y ago

🤦‍♀️ It's over, boys, the Twitanic has sunk

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Just gonna leave this little gem here, enjoy.
https://sfba.social/@sysop408/110639435788921057

wow, this is actually amazing.
You’d think a rapidly developing service like Lemmy might face restrictions like that due to resources but Twitter? Mismanagement beyond belief.

You know things are going well when you have to restrict content consumption on your content platform.

Limit rating your core audience in their primary task is completely batshit crazy. Thank fuck for mastodon.

By post he means tweet, right? Google says average tweet length is only around 30 characters and average word length around 5 characters. So let's say it's 8 words with abbreviation which would take 2 seconds to read. If it's 4 seconds per tweet with scrolling then you can now only spend under an hour on Twitter without paying. Good on him for fighting against social media addiction I guess.
- I got rate limited in 25 minutes by refreshing my Following feed and reading about people getting rate limited. I don't think it counts 600 unique tweets since I definitely reloaded the same tweets multiple times.
- It's basically everything. Tweets, quoted tweets, replies, and even ads all count against the limit. I've seen people saying they hit the limit in under 10 minutes of scrolling. One person said they only managed to post two tweets before being limited.
  And from what I understand spam bots are mostly unaffected since they're already rate limited for reads (but not posts).
- Dude is using 100% of his brain to find the best way to cut ad revenue.

I wonder what's actually going on; I doubt it's about "scraping" and "manipulation"
- This is second-hand, so take it with a grain of salt, but I've seen mention of a bug that sometimes causes the same graphql query to be executed in an infinite loop (presumably they're async requests, so the browser wouldn't lock and the user wouldn't even notice).
  So they may essentially be getting DDOS'd by their own users due to a bug on their end.
  Edit: better info: https://sfba.social/@sysop408/110639435788921057
  
  Ha, that's hilarious. Absolutely not a surprise, though
- If it is, he's even dumber than I thought. You stop scrapping by setting a rate limit to something comfortable for humans but painfully slow for scrappers. Something like 60 tweets per minute would all but ensure that humans aren't affected and that scrappers won't get anywhere.
- For my money I would bet the issue stems from abandoning Google server hosting, either from arrogance or being unable to afford it.
  
  Oh yeah I completely forgot about that particular idiocy, Elmo gets up to so much stupid shit that it's hard to keep track.
  But I'd also be willing to bet money on this being somehow at least partially tied to ditching GC, likely due to not being able to pay (at that's what is implied by them refusing to pay the bill.) I guess Elmo thought "how hard can running some servers be? I'm a rokit skientist" and decided to just skip paying the bill as a power move instead of trying to make a deal with Google, and now the remaining developers, ops people etc. – those poor bastards – are paying the price.
  
  That's my bet too. They weren't hosting the site itself on GCP but they were using them for trust and safety services, and I bet that one of those services was anti scraping prevention with things like ip blocking and captchas, which would explain why scraping suddenly became a problem for them the day their contract ended. It can't be a coincidence.

Talk about killing the goose that laid golden eggs...

Please please please let this be the breaking point at which big online personalities switch to mastodon, or at least start using those crossposting tools. That's the only thing I miss from twitter and something RSS cant replace

spez right now:

How the fuck is Reddit closing their API behind a ridiculous paywall only the SECOND stupidest social media move of the day
- The day is not over yet
- Boy I sure picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue
  
  Well I picked the wrong day to quit amphetamines!

Fucking lol.
Keep punching yourself in the dick, elmo.

I for one am cheering its demise.

So unless you pay Elon Musk $8/month, you can only load 600 tweets per day. That's some fucked up shit right there man.

I don't even use Twitter anymore, but after this, I went there just to delete my two accounts.

Traditional internet is killing itself
- Just these monolithic social media companies really. And I don't really consider anything "web 2.0" to be traditional internet. Newgrounds was traditional internet.
- I would say the traditional internet was before the time of corporate ruled media, so in that case I'd say corporate internet is killing itself and and media is going back to traditional, at least with respect to the Fediverse.
- Nah, Web 2.0 is killing itself. Turns out dipshit greedy pig boys aren't great at running social platforms
- The fediverse came just in time. I wouldn't have even heard about lemmy/kbin or mastodon if reddit hadn't shut down 3rd party apps.
  They seem like they're trying to bleed a stone.

Elon will be happy to know that my Twitter consumption has fallen to zero a day.

He is so unbelievably dumb?? 😅

You know the fediverse isn't perfect but it seems more sustainable than these big social media companies that are not profitable. Reddit and Twitter make no real money but want to host everything on their website and I'm not entirely sure why. Image boards like 4chan purge all their data and the fediverse is spread out to a bunch of different servers. What's the point of keeping everything forever on one server? Do they really think that all that junk data is valuable?
Also why did reddit go from just hosting text to hosting images and videos? It used to be a link aggregation site now it's a never leave our borders site I don't understand how that's going to be profitable with how much hosting that data is going to cost.
Years ago I used to hit like 15 websites a day just for video game news and discussion then it became all reddit.
- As Cory Doctorow termed it, it's the enshittification of the Internet - all for the sake of "shareholder value" It's a proper "can't see the wood for the trees" business
- Miss the good ole days of porn on gfycat
- Miss the good ole days of imgur, YouTube, and porn on gfycat

Everyone always saying “rip Twitter” but y’all never leave, so…
- I know, somehow people aren't leaving despite Elon's best efforts.

You really can’t make this stuff up, it’s beyond my head how someone can make those choices. But I mean advertisers already ditched Twitter long ago, so why not squeeze the last money out of it that you can get.

This is the result of a deranged fascist being born with an apartheid silver spoon in his mouth.
- Probably an emerald spoon in his case.
  
  Indeed!

Well, Twitter is a mobile game now... Is there something to consider it a gacha?

LOL this is ridiculous. Great work Elon!

fuck you, Elon. open source devs will bypass this shit in about a week.

The good thing is that it will reduce my twitter time to less than 30 minutes.

Let's hope for another twitter migration wave to mastodon / other fediverse platforms!

So, let's see. My 1920x1080 monitor and my full window browser can render 3 or 4 posts without scrolling, just logging in on Twitter. Because it's a new account, that means I have 296 posts left to read.
I click on one of those 4 initial posts, and without scrolling, I read 3 or 4 replies. I have 292 posts left to read. And even those replies don't bring me anything meaningful, they're just trolls doing troll things. 4 posts wasted.
And so on and so on. Wonderful, Mr. Free Speech Absolutist.
- I love that avatar.

https://soundcloud.com/ajjofficial/schadenfreude

This is utterly insane. Twitter has basically become pay-to-use. I give it less than a day for him to walk this back.

Simply put this is the most amazing thing the twit did to Twitter since forcing himself as King Twit. Even better than when he tried to back out of it but couldn't because he'd already signed for it.

Wow that’s my Twitter and Reddit account deleted within 24 hours

zomg. musk has finally found the cure for doomscrolling addiction!!!

Not only that, it seems they are also DDoSing themselves because of the recent changes to view comments publically.

Why would you punish your users for using your fucking site? It’s kinda sad how Elon is ruining Twitter.

Great! Come to fediverse, no limits here ✌️

The funny thing is I'm pretty sure replies, tweets, and retweets all count toward that (if they're using the same rules as the API), so basically that just kills the majority of your user base.

Is there a link to the tweet or did I miss it? I think you should link the tweet because screenshots are so easy to fake and (in other situations) to give credit
- Well, the tweets also need login to see nowadays, so here's an article for you: https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-twitter-users-being-forced-sign-in-see-tweets-2023-7

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