I was banned from Reddit for saying I enjoyed the parts of red dead redemption 2 where you had to kill slave owners and kkk members. Literally said I enjoyed a mainstream video game and the main quest. Inciting violence against polygons in an imaginary world that took place 150 years ago.
Reddit also banned me for saying nazis deserve to be punched. A comment I made under a post similar to this. Appearantly making such posts is fine, but commenting the same shit is unforgivable.
And that kind of shit is exactly the reason why there's still a denazified German version. Killing Nazis isn't the issue, putting them in a metaphysical context, derealising them, etc, is what's the problem. You don't want kids one day to think of Nazis as fictional characters.
Probably because it's not okay to assault people who you disagree with or find unforgivable. Down votes and punching is easy, little kid stuff. Seeing where they are coming from, what they've been through, and understanding why they are this way, and helping them see their way out of it. That is the difficult part.
"People I don't agree with" and "Nazis" aren't the same people. I sympathize with people who have lives that lead them down the path to that, but once they've committed themselves to Nazism and start saluting in the street, then there's no more sympathy.
To be clear, you can come back from a lot of shitty beliefs. I have. But I also didn't march in white pride parades with swastikas. I'm not talking about run of the mill conservatives.
My parents raised me with unfortunate views, as did the churches they forced me to attend. It was only through life experience that I came to realize they were wrong.
Violence didn't help me, it made me feel isolated and more inclined to think that those using violence against me didn't have rational arguments against my views.
Violence doesn't win arguments, and it should be a last resort, using it for instant gratification is a sure strategy to prolong conflict.
This sets a dangerous example, and we need to talk about it.
If you punch a Nazi like this, you're going to break your wrist. Remember, make contact with the largest two knuckles (index and middle finger) and keep a strong wrist. You want to hurt the Nazi, not yourself!
Stay safe out there and keep punching Nazis.
This has been a public service announcement.
[Two images shown side by side. The first shows a young man in a black shirt standing on a crowded sidewalk, his hand raised above his head in the historical "Nazi salute" with a lightly smug expression. There is a person's hand holding up their middle finger prominently in his direction visible from the right side of the screen, but everything past their forearm is out of the image frame. In the second image, the same man in the black shirt is shown with his hand at his side, as a second man in an orange shirt is shown in the middle of punching the taller black-shirted man in the jaw. The fist of the man punching is angled slightly upwards at the wrist, so his fist makes contact at the knuckles on his fingers rather than using the flat surface of a typical punch. The image is captured before the man in the black shirt reacts to the punch. The hand holding up a middle finger is still visible in the right of the frame.]
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I was once banned from Reddit for correctly pointing out that the medically approved cure for Nazism is one fist, applied directly to the face repeatedly until the afflicted individual stops being a Nazi.
The medical professional applying this cure can substitute any handy blunt object for their first if so desired.
I've only just joined after about 11 years on reddit, and I've only just realised we can say this shit about nazis here. I feel like a weight just lifted off my back.
I definitely appreciate any punch that gets thrown in a Nazi's direction, but I agree, stay safe. If you have a can of industrial strength bear mace, use that, instead. Really get in in their holes, too. Mouth, ear, and nose. If you are brave enough, try other holes, too. Every hole filled with bear mace is one less hole spewing vile hate speech.
So bear mace is typically weaker than mace meant for people. So I recommend full power self defense mace/pepper spray for use against nazis. Other than that small detail, I’m fully on board with your recommended plan.
Cringe take to glorify any violence for having an opinion even if its offensive just as yours could be equally offensive to them. If you say your feelings aren't hurt then you actually think violence is a good cause lol
Reminder that Mahatma Gandhi was a plant by the UK government to stop the india independence movement, and delayed independence by decades. Also a pedophile. Nonviolent protest doesn't work.
You also wanna make sure to get in the habit of punching with your thumb at the side of your fist and not in front of your index finger, cause you might otherwise break your own thumb on impact.
Cool but slippery slope
Edit: I feel like a lot of people dont get it. For an example if you ban nazis and they get power they can ban the left side or trans people(etc you get the point). Also just banning stuff can screw up things. Same with allowing hitting someone for their (flawed) ideology. You have to assume that your enemies and also yourself dont have morals. Nazis think they are the good side(idk actually, im not a nazi). Violence and banning things should only be used as an extreme measure.
It’s a sheer cliff really. Either you’re punching a nazi or you’re punching someone that doesn’t deserve it. Nazis are usually proud of being Nazis, so they show off with these salutes and their dumb swastika flags. It’s ok to punch people like this. It should in fact be legal.
Conceptual slippery slope arguments assume that because we cannot draw a distinction between adjacent stages, we cannot draw a distinction between any stages at all.
Example: "There is no essential difference between 199 and 200 grains of sand or 200 and 201 grains and so on. Thus, there is no difference between 1 grain of sand and 3 billion grains of sand.”
I think he means that it's a dangerous precident. Opening the door to political violence not only makes your side look barbarous, but is also a potential justification for future political violence against an arbitrary group.
I hate Nazis, but we shouldn't be punching people for saying stupid, hateful shit.
Needing to reinforce that you hate nazis everytime is pretty woke cause woke people are always like "oh, I hate nazis, and look, I'm so cool, I hate them". It's just so simplistic and I think I'm just tired of people repeating that word everytime they can.
You shouldn't use of violence no matter how much of an asshole someone is. If you use violence or threat to use it against someone not in self-defense way, you've already lost the battle.