Lol they're so mad at Shaun for having principles
Lol they're so mad at Shaun for having principles
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The dems are presiding over both a trans genocide and a palestinian genocide and this loser thinks voting for them makes things "better".
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The kids are still in cages lest everyone forget. Seems like the whole fucking country has
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Don't worry about it. It will be hot button issue #1 once Trump takes office again.
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Don't forget the inherent gendercide in the new anti-abortion standard that they refuse to lift a finger against
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What's the standard?
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The venn diagram of people who say this and the people who will tell you that "America" is a democracy and that China is a dictatorship of brainwashed Chinese factory workers is a circle.
Libs have no idea what "America" is, just that it has to be protected because the alternative is self reflection.
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they are the same who see america being a racist shithole and proclaim "this isnt us!"
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“I can excuse genocide but I draw the line at not voting!”
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Isn't Shaun a Br*tish person? Skullboy can't even vote in the election they're mad about. Why are people so obsessed about genocide Joe that they want to convince people in other countries that they should vote for him if they were allowed to do so hypothetically?
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They're actually mad at him BECAUSE He's a British person saying this, because he's "influencing an election he wont feel the effects of" or whatever.
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Siri, how many countries have a US military base?
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lmao imagine thinking Air Strip One (1984 isn’t great to reference, but the idea behind that name is pretty spot on) won’t feel the effects of their master’s election.
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Each and every country is entitled on an opinion on US politics since 2/3rds of the world is basically an US colony/military base, and the other 1/3rd is threatened by them on the daily
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this libshit being conveyed through a nazitoss comic really is the cherry on top
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This line of thought is logical for libs, because they do not understand that one votes for a candidate, rather they think one votes against a candidate. I used that lib logic about not voting to do a bit recently, feel free to steal it
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it's not a vote for Trump because I don't owe the democrats a vote
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To be fair, its based on who you would've voted for if you had voted. The message is for people who would've voted democrat. What they ignore is this acknowledges that democrats need to play to their base, which they dont do. Democrats always play to the non-existant center and rely on chastizing their left wing to get their votes. If a democrat actually played to the center of their own party they be wildly left wing in US terms.
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You have two options:
-vote for the person who will stab you
-vote for the person who won't pull the knife out
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More like:
-vote for the person who already stabbed you
-vote for the person who said he’d pull the knife out but still hasn’t (edit: and is actively stabbing someone else)
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they dont even admit the knife is there!
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These people are pathetic
It's too bad Biden was busy somewhere else when Roe v Wade got overturned.
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The logic of "its an endorsement of Trump to not vote for anyone but its not an endorsement of Biden to vote for Biden because trolley problem" is absolutely fucking omniverse brain ass logic. Incredible.
And thats from someone who for a long time did see American electoral politics as basically a trolley problem. So I can totally understand how someone like that chooses to vote for Biden and doesnt see it as an endorsement of everything he does. What I cant understand is how they see it as an endorsement of Trump to NOT VOTE AT ALL (or vote third party).
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They would be thrilled if a former trump supporter said they weren't going to vote. They'd be called brave and heroic.
But a leftist not voting for Biden is doing worse how? Me not voting for Biden does the same thing as a chud not voting for trump. It's the same as every other person who does not or cannot vote. But I'm somehow morally worse?
I think part of it is wanting chuds to like them as part of some weird need for approval from a patriarchal system (I will write a post about this if you ask) but another part is this belief that conservatives don't know any better. So these folks get to smugly patronize chuds and scold anyone to their left.
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They're literally doing the meme
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Except it's people hyperbolically interpreting Shaun telling people to stick to their principles as endorsing voting for Trump
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They already struck down Roe v Wade, and Biden has made it clear he’s not willing to do anything to negate that that would take affect in his lifetime so I’m not sure what rights they think Biden is guarding.
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Yeah but he said he'll REALLY be a leftist in his second term
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“He promised, this project at work is really stressful, but once it’s finished he’s going to stop drinking, really.”
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What good is voting for "the lesser of two evils" if literally both fucking options results in genocide?
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"We'll at least postpone it longer with Democrats, maybe we'll figure something better out in the meantime"
Even this tepid defense isn't really working anymore.
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usians are the most propagandized people on earth
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they heard he supports the irish republicans and got confused, surely
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I just don't get them. Yeah, throw your ballot in for the genocidal monsters. Then do nothing, or maybe write some letters that the congressional aides have spam filters set up for.
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The whole principle behind electoral politics is to give your symbolic consent to be governed by a person. Therefore not voting is a principled stand if you don't consent to be governed by any of the clowns being presented. Its really that simple.
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Every single one of Shaun's replies could be replaced by that horrible liberal saying BUDDY, CHAMP, GUY tiktok and it would have the exact same effect
These people are incapable of learning from history
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These people are incapable of learning from history
Unfortunately they did learn. They learned that their tactic “works” when Biden won, even though that had more to do with reaction to Trump and the mishandling of covid than anything they actually did.
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What the liberal fails to understand is that the power now lies in the leftist hands.
In 2016, it was unknown how bad trump could be.
In 2020, we were told "see, unless you want more of this, you better hold your nose, vote blue, and then we'll push left"
But in the past 4 year, much to the surprise of no one who's paid attention, there has only been a right-ward shift. So now, it's not "hey leftist, if you don't blue you get trump!", it's more like "he democrats, unless you actually shift left, you're getting more of trump"
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But they won't shift left even if they want, actually noticeable numbers of them tried in 2020 by voting Bernie only to see him ratfucked out of that by party and then Bernie himself fully supporting Genocide Joe. The obvious heavy handed manner in which the dem party set up entire thing was pretty educating and clear even from the other side of the world. To shift left they would first stop to be dems.
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The Democrats don't see themselves as having any real incentive to move substantially to the left on any points other than in terms of almost entirely superficial work-identity-politics marketing. They will continue to campaign for college-educated people on the basis on their supposedly greater social progressiveness, while making absolutely no concessions on positions regarding class, and which means that in concrete reality they will not deal with the socio-economic structures that allow and reinforce other socially reactionary practices. Not only that, but it will just lead to further radicalization of the far right as they increasingly delegitimize themselves. A part of me suspects that the real danger is the Republicans securely grabbing enough of a working-class base to make it difficult for Democrats to win an election again, which would make the Republicans more brazenly not give any fucks and pass legislation they would otherwise be more hesitant to pass given the risk of alienating voters.
Like seriously who is gunna march and knock on doors for Biden other than the most depraved, gentrifying, condo-sniffing PMCs and trust-fund kid liberals?
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Unfortunately, people are so deep in the propaganda they mindlessly think "vote Blu no matter who1!1!11!" even more "lefty" people, see this post for example https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/bf6984d4-e873-49d4-9b04-1d05661fa00a.webp
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#votebluenomattergenocide #voteforevil #thelesserevil #blueisthelesserevilcolor
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I wonder how many of these lib scolds are phonebanking or canvassing for Genocide Joe.
Being annoying on the Internet is not praxis. If they were truly committed, they would be knocking on doors and volunteering for the campaign.
But they don't give a shit, they just want to feel morally superior. Their goal is not to convince other people to vote for Biden. Their goal is to convince themselves that they are still the good guys even while voting for genocide.
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A good response to these types is to poke them on their lack of activity. "How many calls did you make? How many doors did you knock? How many relational organizing contacts did you make?" Last one is a deep cut
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Sipping my wine at brunch, while scolding the uneducated lower classes for not voting Biden. That’s called being an Adult in the Room.
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ewwww pebble throw
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I'm aware of stonetoss and Shaun. What's the specific beef this is referencing?
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refusing to endorse "lesser evil" voting strategies particularly in regards to aiding a genocide
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https://nitter.net/shaun_vids/status/1722793962363117629
Original tweeter made this stonetoss edit to "criticize" Shaun for this tweet.
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yeah, let's sacrifice America to the Republicans on a single issue, that will work
That single issue is genocide, it's not like, a small child tax credit expiration or something. What the fuck is wrong with liberals? If the single issue was something small, fine, but this is LITERALLY GENOCIDE we're talking about. That single issue is monumental and they're happy to just ignore it. Libs are
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it's really funny that making memes out of a nazi comic is just, like, a normal thing for redditors to do. as if it's just a normal instagram 4 panel gag strip. and i know the excuse is that by changing the comics they're somehow owning stonetoss with his own logic but that's clearly not the case, it's just a guy who hates jews and queers and blacks getting free attention because these people are incapable of expressing an idea without ragefaces. like he doesn't care that you wrote that he's a nazi. if he didn't want to be called that he probably wouldn't act like a nazi all the time.
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I don’t think it’s anything between Shaun and the rock throwing Nazi. They’re just using the pebble yeet comic as the base meme to make their point, because unfortunately that mineral chuck comic has become a meme unknowingly used by others.
Rather, they are using the boulder catapult comic to say that Shaun’s aversion to voting for genocide supporters is actually just meant to support Republicans.
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Should I vote for Genocide or Super Genocide? Or just life quit and let you all deal with it?
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to pressure biden into stop supporting genocide if he wants to win -
No, the point is to threaten to reject electoralism and show the rest of the US population how farcical it is, and to show that there is a large number of people not buying into this syatem or its propaganda. If you don't vote for president this election and then vote again in the next one, they were right and you're really a pathetic cowed-and-beaten loyal subject.
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despite gritting my teeth and voting for that prick Starmer last time as harm reduction
What? The last election was under Corbyn.
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he literally said people have a moral obligation to not vote for Biden
chat did he say this, it seems to me that only democratic party insiders are the ones framing this in moral terms. conditioning your vote is really the only avenue you have (if you choose to stick to the electoral apparatus) to actually influence the agenda. do they know dems compromise with republicans all the time? if you forsake what little input you actually have and keep giving democrats carte blanche in every single election, you are pretty much just voting for the same republican agenda with a delayed timelapse for its execution.
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He actually did use the term "moral obligation" tvf
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If liberals believe the lesser evil should always be supported, they should be demanding that Joe Biden arm Hamas with nukes and aircraft carriers
Count the bodies, you can't tell me Hamas isn't less evil than the Zionist entity
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Déjà vu
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If you vote for Genocide Joe you endorse genocide, no amount of cope will change that
Yup.
Similar to how they have a three paragraph response ready for how the guy who outlawed a strike is pro union.
"But he got them what theybwere asking for within 3 months"
He stopped a strike, full stop.
Even if he did get their requests 2 months later (spoiler, he absolutely fucking didnt) that's two months and multiple biohazardous train derailment later when he could have done literally nothing and they would have gotten it immediatly.
But libs are going with the time proven electoral strategy of telling anybody with a valid complaint they're wrong and don't know how politics works.
I've been a staunch lesser evilist for a long time and even argued for it here, but Genocide support is my red line. If Biden changes tune and forces a ceasefire (I was going to say support, but of course biden could actually FORCE one signle handedly) then I might change my tune.
Granted, I didnt vote for him in 2020 either but that was because I dont live in a swing state. Its only because of this red line that I now am against voting for him regardless of where you live.
Like, I still have trouble not seeing FPTP voting in america as a trolley problem, and I havent intelectually wrapped my head around it yet, but I know Biden crossed a line for me and thats that.
I don't want to come across as an accelerationist, but I am almost certain Democrats would have endorsed a ceasefire if Trump was president. He has a way of sharpening the contradictions so even the most false consciousness pilled lib can see the correct choice.
Okay, but what if you vote in a state where the electoral college says you voted for the other guy?
Does that say least absolve you?
Trump winning (because progressives refuse to vote) isn’t going to stop the genocide. It will however make the situation 100 times worse at home.
Trump being bad for America is not the argument you think it is in these parts lol
Gotta love how liberals portray progressives as simultaneously a large enough voting bloc to sway entire elections, but not large enough to ever enact a single progressive policy even when it's a campaign promise.
It sounds like Biden and the Democratic party are the ones who should be working harder to court votes. You know, they're the ones in power right now.
Trumps not gonna win because progressives refuse to vote he's going tow in because Biden is trying to win as a Democrat while pissing off anybody that cares about unions or not committing genocides and luterally explicitly told young people he does not care about the problems they face.
It may stop the arming of fascists in Ukraine however, and end that senseless NATO proxy way