in a lot of places you are legally obligated to tell cops ur name and show them ur passport or drivers license, when they ask. so if this is the case for u, u should do it (and then shut up and say nothing more without ur lawyer)
You shouldn't just shut up after identifying yourself either, you should explicitly state that you are exercising your 5th amendment rights and then shut up. Talking afterwards can be taken as rescinding your 5th amendment assertion.
Famously, a judge once ruled that saying "Yo, I want a lawyer, dawg" was actually not a 5th amendment assertion, and that the suspect was genuinely requesting a dog who practices law.
I think you'll find you'll start getting taken way more seriously online when you start typing like an adult. Use whole words, not stupid abbreviations. Capitalize and punctuate appropriately.
If you want to be taken seriously online, don't use stupid colloquialisms like "way more seriously." Use grammatically correct phrasing like "far more seriously." Start writing like an adult.
didnt ask + go fuck urself + i type however the fuck i want uwu
i think u might be seen as way less unlikeable if u stopped being such a tight assed bitch <3
i'm an adult. any way i type is like an adult. if someone cant take me serious because of the way i type, thats their issue. i'm in the comment section of an online meme community not writing a work email. i can write however i want as long as its understandable.
i'm an adult. any way i type is like an adult. if someone cant take me serious because of the way i type, thats their issue. i'm in the comment section of an online meme community not writing a work email. i can write however i want as long as its understandable
In the US that is a 4th amendment violation. Some states get around that by requiring convicted felons to provide ID, but in most of the US if you haven't been convicted of a felony you have no obligation to identify yourself.
Even if you're right, you have many court battles ahead if you're in a state that requires it, including likely the SCOTUS. Do you have the money and time to do this? Go for it. Most people don't. Don't help them, but also don't give them a reason to arrest you.
Reality check. 9 times out of ten, you're way better off just being a good little citizen and co-operating. Cops are people, and you get better results by playing nice.
If you get stopped randomly by a cop, just show your ID and tell him where you're going. They can arrest and hold you if they want, and the chances of you suing are pretty low. They have the power, and you don't. The place to assert your rights is in the courtroom, not when you can be arrested and or beaten for acting proud.
Don't be these guys
Reality check? Wow. You don’t know what the fuck you are going on about. Because your experiences have been 9 out of 10 positive you think others need a reality check? I spent two weeks in fucking jail for SHIITAKE MUSHROOMS.
So call a lawyer and get some reparations
Which proves my point. The cops can arrest you for ANYTHING.
The outliers don't make the rule.
On the subject of outliers, are we supposed to assume that a user named MycoBro (a user who references smoking marijuana and having a particular interest in identifying Psilocybin cubensis) is actually academically interested in fungi, and not one of the vastly more common abusers of poisonous mushrooms?
Yeah, no. Glad that it's worked out for you (so far), but it doesn't always work out for everyone. I agree that you shouldn't be aggressive and standoffish, but you sure as fuck should not trust the cops. All they've shown is that they are a gang that believe they're above the law. They're out to protect and serve each other — not us.
In 2015 officer involved homicide averaged four a day, a factor that has only increased in the following years during the rise of Trump-led hate rhetoric. (also not including those covered up by precinct coroners, which was discovered in studies to be routine)
50% of the victims were neither armed nor resisting.
Especially if you are not white or white passing
No.
You should cooperate with what they order you to do, and you should always be friendly, but never let them search your property without a warrant or probable cause, as they could plant evidence. If you get arrested, comply with all actions they tell you to do, but don't say a single fucking word. On the street, try to stay alive, but once arrested, don't waive your 5th amendment rights. Being a good little citizen will doom you in interviews, and it should never be done.
I didn't say let them search your property. I said exactly what you said in the first sentence.
I agree with everything above not all cops are nice. A majority probably are nice though but most just want to get to the end of the day without any confrontations although it doesn't hurt to record the conversation for evidence
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Don't do any of this in Europe
Lmfao, no matter where you live, the cops never have and never will exist to serve you, and you should absolutely do as much of this as you can wherever it is you live.
Why not? Police can figure it out themselves.
Important addition: when the nice officer asks you to please leave the vehicle, you're getting out of the vehicle. Whether on your own or by getting pulled through a busted window is up to you.
Ref: Pennsylvania v. Mimms (the driver must follow the LEO's orders), Maryland v. Wilson (the same applies to passengers)
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Why is it a dog?
It's a parody of McGruff the crime dog, a propaganda character from the 80s-90s
So that he can Take a Bite Out of Crime. ®
In case somebody asks for "a lawyer, dawg"
Which the court has decided is not invoking your right to an attorney. The cop "can be reasonably confused" that you meant you want a lawyer dog, which you have no right to and they have no obligation to allow for.
Just like Harry Potter, you have to speak the incantations correctly or your rights may be violated. Similarly, speaking after invoking your right to remain silent breaks the silence, so ask for your attorney, then invoke your right to remain silent, then STFU.
Could it be a watchdog?
In a lot of places these don't apply, most western countries cops are not allowed to lie
And that means that they never do, obviously :)
The proverbial lawyer dog, just be sure not to ask for him.
not talking to the police is extremely important advice, it could really save you a lot of trouble one day.
for the curious, here’s a lawyer explaining it in more detail: https://youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE. (i thought he was a pretty entertaining speaker the first time i watched the video.)
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No es ese don Graff?
