Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari briefs foreign press on terror tunnels accessed from inside hospital wards, plays conversations on the locations of those terror HQs, Hamas control of fuel
The IDF revealed on Friday, what it described as intelligence showing a Hamas command center located under a the Shifa Hospital in Gaza City. In a briefing, Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari told members of the foreign press corps that there are areas in the hospitals that are used by Hamas to direct its military operations.
Hamas is awful for putting military installations near civilian infrastructure, and the Israeli military is awful for bombing indiscriminately despite their advanced military tech and resources.
Im not sure if i would blame Israel. If someone was barricaded next door to you taking people off the streets, taking pot shots over the fence and holding human shields you would want something done too. Unfortunately, while any action taken should miniseries danger to non-combatants they are literally in the line of fire.
They tried blockades and cutting power, but everyone complained at that too. What are you meant to do when your opponent is deliberately trying to make you kill civilians to get rid of them?
By the rules of war? Yes, absolutely. You could even make an argument that the Geneva Convention would encourage the bombing of this hospital as a way to deter future actors from attempting a similar war crime.
It's not a fake video; it's obviously a representation of a base. I don't know what you are getting at. Did you not realize this when the camera moved through the earth?
It's a representation of a Garry's Mod level. I don't doubt Hamas has bases in tunnels but the base depicted looks so obviously faked, the rooms in it look straight out of a video game. It's like the Israeli government told a video game addicted intern to make up a Hamas bases in Garry's Mod to send to the media.
I don't see anything there about Hamas punkers looking like an graphic design intern, who plays an excessive amount of FPS games, quickly threw the design together in Garry's Mod.
Hamas and PIJ have always use Hospitals, Schools, and Mosques to hide inside, store weaponry, and fire missiles from.
In every single independent investigation by outside parties, that are not affiliated with Qatari owned Al Jazeera, like the UNHRC have found this to be true. They do this because they use the Palestinian people, with the Palestinian people's blessing, to be used as human shields, knowing if Israel strikes, what should be a sacrosanct community center of religion, or healing, or learning, will be used for anti Israel inflammation in the world forum .... like the Fediverse. They communicate to Israel , yeah this is where we're hiding and storing our weapons above ground, if you hit us here we're gonna make it hurt in the public relations department.
And even after it's proven that Hamas and their sycophants have lied, and it's one of Hamas and/or PIJ's own rockets which have misfired, landed and killed their people all the yahoos scream bloody murder, and Jews worldwide are targeted.
And then a Rabbi gets stabbed to death outside her home in Detroit.
The "underground terror network" propaganda everyone keeps pushing really loses it's momentum when someone brings up the severe lack of cement in Gaza due to Israeli trade restrictions. Speculative evidence of tunnels under hospitals does not allow justification of bombing those hospitals.
This is because, as their charter states, Hamas views all Palestinians as martyrs to the cause, and not only doesn't care if they live or die, they actively encourage civilian deaths. Sometimes at gunpoint.
Also the tunnels are not speculation. They are the entire reason the ground assault is happening. They're extremely well documented, and tunnel networks have been in the area for literally thousands of years
Are you copying and pasting the same reply as someone else? I swear I keep seeing this exact reply on anything to do with Israel / Palestine, but it doesn't show up in your post history (as far back as I could be bothered going anyway).
No, it's being said a lot because its both deplorable and true. And every time someone learns about it for the first time they assume that no self respecting person could know about Hamas' crimes and still support Hamas.
Still hasn't been verifiably proven by either Hamas nor the IDF what actually happened. Even Al jazeera's own video was contradictory to what the IDF claimed because it showed the missile launching from Israel which makes no sense.
And then a Rabbi gets stabbed to death outside her home in Detroit.
Unrelated and most likely not a targeted murder according to the police
UNHRC have found this to be true
Not saying this isn't true but source plz? I can't find anything talking about this mostly because right now they are focusing on the humanitarian crisis, so its all the new articles.
Do Israeli leaders know that when a terrorist uses “human shields,”, you aren’t supposed to kill the “human shields”? You’re supposed to prove you’re better than the terrorist by valuing civilian life.
“Human shields” in quotes because they seem to think Hamas using tunnels makes all of Gaza a human shield. But if you value human life on the x and y axis and kill civilians on the z axis, you’re still a war criminal. Real life is 3D.
Not quite - you are meant to respond in a proportional way and minimise civilian casualties. It sucks, but civilians die in war and this must be minimal.
Level the whole building - non proportional, didn't minimize casualties, probably a war crime (as it is a military target it may be considered acceptable).
Blockades to remove hamas strength and stop aid supplies that aren't getting to civilians anyway- proportional and minimises as opposed to what else can be done.
Restricting resources then invasion - legal to remove a threat, proportional, minimize casualties.
Interestingly this is the exact same response a police force will do if someone blockades themselves inside a building with human shields and takes pot shots at everyone walking past - starve, remove strength and resources, get as many hostages out as you can then invade it.
Using civilians as a human shield in a state-state conflict is a war crime, however if hamas is considered a terrorist organization rather than a state it is no longer war and not technically a war crime. I believe other laws come into play however, its been a while.
I don’t have a problem with crushing the Al-Qassam Brigades or crushing Hamas leadership structure. I do have a problem with the loose definition of human shield and pretending the health ministry is the Al-Qassam Brigades.
I root for team civilian but even if I had a special place in my heart for Israel, I think what they’re doing is counterproductive. Every civilian killed means two terrorists a few years from now.
From what I understand, putting militarily installations in places of worship, schools, hospitals and similar, is a war crime even in non-international conflicts.
That’s not what the geneva convention says. The right of self defense takes precedence. So according to international law those locations become valid targets. They are not “supposed to keel over and die”, that’s not valuing their own lives.
It's not like they could have faked the audio recording of two anonymous people saying it's definitely happening...
I mean sure, if they wanted to they could send in ground forces and capture the hospital they could prove that infrastructure exists, but why do that when they can just collapse the hospital and kill all the patients too?
Sending ground forces straight into the center of Gaza isn't as simple as you make it seem. The place is booby trapped and has a labyrinth of tunnels full of armed terrorists just waiting to kill Israeli soldiers in the name of Allah or some shit.
They can't just stroll in and take a look under the hospital.
I don't doubt that they put them in and around hospitals, schools, mosques, and churches to try to increase civilian casualties and therefore outrage when Israel goes and strikes their enemies.
Oh so they’re admitting that they bombed the hospital now? Well thanks IDF for proving that we should never believe anything you say ever again. Free Palestine!