No fighting back said the teacher
No fighting back said the teacher
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Yeah personally I don't think Israel should have access to any more American Technology including missiles regardless of their use since they can be used offensively and they're currently committing a genocide.
Until the Palestinians are free I think it's pretty apt to just reject all forms of aid to Israel.
Also there's quite a few people here defending "Zionism" which is disappointing to see.
Zionism has been described by several scholars as a form of settler colonialism in relation to the region of Palestine and the Israeli–Palestinian conflict.
Zionism's founders and early leaders were aware and unapologetic about their status as colonizers. Many early leading Zionists such as Theodor Herzl, Max Nordau, and Ze'ev Jabotinsky described Zionism as colonization.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism_as_settler_colonialism
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It's so astounding that the US sends aid to Israel to make sure their population has free healthcare/education, given what it looks like inside the US
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We sent them $17.9 billion since Oct 2023.
That money could easily pay for United States Social Services multiple times
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Thanks :))))
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Wearing armor grants you the privilege to start more fights. Israel's incentives for diplomacy are minimal and they exert their will unto others due to a lack of consequences.
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I'm about to be shit on as a Zionist for defending the death of innocent children, but here goes:
Isreal is just as full of innocent children. They don't deserve to die for the genocide their parents are being tricked into ignoring.
The armor is for those children. Not their parents. AOC is literally saying that defending the lives of innocents matter more than attacking genociders. When they are mixed together, you can't target one without the other.
So yeah, the Iron Dome protects genociders, but it also protects their kids and other innocent people. It actually protects civilians and their children far more than it protects the politicians who don't even live there.
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I will support giving defensive missiles at the same time we give the Palestinians military aid to defend themselves as well. Remember, the Palestinians have just as much right to armed self defense as the Israelis. In fact, the Palestinians obviously need a lot more defensive military tech than the Israelis. I'll support giving the Israelis defensive missiles after we've already given the Gazans so many that they can establish their own no fly zone over Gaza.
Obviously, if the goal is defending children, we need to start with the most vulnerable children first. We should send missile batteries to the Gazans first. After their safety is assured, then we can worry about the much richer much more powerful country.
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I get your point, but my point was about Israel's privilege to act without consequences. If their children were put at risk by their genocidal actions, they might be incentivized to, I dunno, not be genocidal psychopaths.
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I understand what you're saying, and I agree with the intent, but I don't agree with it. If the people of Israel have to face consequences for their actions, they might take a stand and force their government to stop. They aren't innocent until they're doing what they can to force a cessation of the violence. As long as they feel safe they won't feel the pressure to stand up. I don't like it when people die, but I also recognize that sometimes it can save lives in the long-term.
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Why isnt there an iron dome on the Palestinian side if she really thinks the lives of the innocent are so damn precious? It's great they want to protect the children of the oppressors, but not the ones being attacked unprovoked? What's stopping them from stepping up for the actual casualties?
Wow, so much humanity.
Fucking hypocrites always trying to do a mental gymnastic to justify their crimes against humanity.
But whatever makes you sleep better at night.
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besides that.
If we don't help them finances the iron dome, they'll have to pay for it themselves, taking away of their genocidal project. although they will probably cut other services like free education or free healthcare. genociders dont deserve nice things.
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Yup, they'll screw their population out of services before they give up their colonial conquests.
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Fuck Caitlin Johnstone. Up with AOC.
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Something I started doing recently is anytime I see some moronic maga take on Tik tok or wherever, I’ll spam “Where are the Epstein files?” To every response. Makes me feel good that they can come up with a response to it.
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That's the correct strategy. Populism must be fought with populism. Fully fleshed out logical arguments don't work on people that fall for "Biden did that".
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What happened to the harm reduction?
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we must send aid to nazi Germany, yhea, they are doing a holocaust, but this aid will not go directly towards their holocaust, it will only help them save funds in aid so they can fund Auschwitz.
see the logic?
it ain't harm reduction, Israel can afford the Iron dome, any help towards their Iron dome helps finance other projects like their free healthcare, free education, and free death camps for brown people.
if a country has better living conditions that the US that country should send AID to the third world country that is the US, not the other way round.
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AOC has been bought by the Zios.
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She literally just said we should take away their offensive weapons. How on earth does that equal “being bought” by Israel?
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Because she doesn't place Palestinians and Israelis on equal moral footing. Fundamentally, she doesn't believe they both have an equal claim to humanity. This is obvious because she is proposing giving defensive missiles to the Israelis, but not to the Palestinians, who objectively are at much, much greater need of defensive military aid.
You cannot truly believe both Palestinians and Israelis are equally human unless you recognize they both have an equal right of armed self defense. The Gazans have just as much right to kill in self defense as the Israelis do.
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People just can't handle the fact that sometimes people who are generally good can be really really wrong and need to come to with dumbass conspiracies to explain it.
It's actually identical to why there's so many stupid conspiracy theories about everything. People can't handle the idea that the world is chaos
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She is still defending sending the millions of dollars for a defensive capabilities. Defensive capabilities that allow them to attack everyone around them with impunity.
- Edit* also note if we send them money for defenses that means they can spend more money on offensive weapons. Sending any money to a genocidal Nation no matter what you say it's for is still funding that genocide.
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No she said "I am in favor of giving them free interceptors so their victims cannot retaliate."
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Do you have a source? I can only find evidence to the contrary.
Rep. Ocasio-Cortez rejects all funding, donations, and support from by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). In fact, Rep. Ocasio-Cortez has labeled AIPAC as an "extremist organization that destabilizes US democracy.”
https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/alexandria-ocasio-cortez/summary?cid=N00041162
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Anyone who uses "zios" unironically is almost always an actual anti-semite.
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Just fyi but most Zios, especially in the US, are in fact evangelical Christians who worship Israel instead of Jesus.
See Ted Cruz being interviewed by Tucker Carlson
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The analogy is so stupid since the rockets fired at israel dont kill the people murdering palestinians. They kill everywhere they land.
So more fitting would be taking away the bullet proof wests of the people cowering down behind the mass shooter