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Muad'Dibber @lemmygrad.ml

2y ago

Communist parties are banned in Ukraine BTW.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/2614140

Also a Ukrainian communist i know confirmed it's true

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frippa @lemmy.ml

2y ago

Collectivised from @juchebrainmush.1917 on IG

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I'm a Leftist who isn't a Communist. There's lots of room on the Left.
- Really? I thought we progressives and light-socialists (demsoc or socdem) were really just alt-right and going up against the wall with the rest of them...
  (yeah, sarcasm, but those are things people have literally said to my face)
- Yes, lots of us live in reality and don't try and convince others a utopian society is in any way possible.
  
  The Smurfs were communist... though to be fair there was only 100 of them, and they all had jobs, and enough resources to go around. That one female though...
  
  Siri what is capitalist realism? Also Marxism is literally a materialist ideology, non-marxist leftists generally follow more utopian ideology.

I support any country's right to not be conquered by capitalist, imperialist oligarchs whether I like their internal politics or not. I hate it when the US does it, so it would be hypocritical to not hate it when Russia does the same thing.
- Yup, I was opposed to the U.S.'s imperialist war for oil in Iraq. Just like I oppose Russia's imperialist war for oil in Ukraine.

I am hoping by "communists" you mean people who are aligned with marxism ideal, but not people supporting authoritarian capitalist regimes.
- Agreed, fuck "communists" who support the US and their line
  
  Fuck communists.
- Tankies when capitalism 😥
  Tankies when capitalism with red flags 😎

"USA Left" != "EU Left"
there are of course leftists like what you are thinking in the US but are a smaller or quieter group here due huge pushes the other way

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Also... Ukrainians.
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Oh nice a vatnik. I was expecting tankies here but no vatniks.

- That's a false equivalency. Genocide is core to Nazi ideology. And communism didn't cause the death of millions any more than capitalism caused the deaths of millions. It gets pretty messy when you try and attribute unintentional deaths to an economic system. And frankly, kind of gross when you conflate unintentional deaths with the very deliberate and systematic execution of people.
- https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/574eb599-dd4d-49cb-8991-780902d6865f.png
  If we ban nazism because it’s an ideology that caused the death of millions, we should also ban communism.
  This is soft holocaust denial. There was never a holocaust equivalent that communists did. For that matter there was never a genocide of the Americas that communist countries did.
  
  I don’t usually jump in here but I’d disagree that the USA hasn’t genocided the indigenous peoples of this hemisphere
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_genocide
  They killed a full quarter of their own country. Not in a neglectful kind of way, but full on mass executions, killing fields, concentration camps kind of way.
  Pretty comparable, if you ask me.
  
  Holodomor, anyone?
- Nazism is not banned in Ukraine though.Their national hero is a nazi who participated in the Holocaust.
  It's insane that Ukraine worships Bandera who was an actual Nazi while actually decent Ukrainian Revolutionaries like Makhno are forgotten.

given the circumstances and how these commie parties are aligned with their invaders, it's fair game

As they should be; communism is just another hateful ideology pretending to be left

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