4d ago

At a private fundraiser in 2024, Trump told donors that he had previously threatened to "bomb the shit out of" Beijing and Moscow

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5d ago

Trump said he threatened to bomb Moscow if Putin attacked Ukraine, 2024 fundraiser tapes show

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THIS JUST IN: Trump talks some bullshit out of his ass. More at eleven.
- typical bully behaviour from Trump, talk big to rile up his followers but when the other guy is just as big and strong as you and doesn't back down, he'll fold. Just look at his dealings with Russia, China and Iran. Said he'll end the war in Ukraine in 30 days (?), tariff war on China, and bombing of Iran (Symbolic bombing). Even had to back down from Yemen. On the other hand, like a typical bully, when his victims are powerless he'll go full on. His deportations have been very heavy handed.
The Ukraine thing sounds like pure bullshit (who believes Trump actually gives a shit one way or the other)
The Beijing one might be real, although I imagine the actual response from the Xi or whoever he was speaking to would be like "Ok. Let's see how that goes for you when I do the same to Washington DC."
Does he think he's speaking to, I dunno, a country that can't retaliate in kind and destroy the entire US if the US tries to destroy them? The fact is if China really wanted to "invade" Taiwan today there's not much the US can do about it without triggering a war that would ultimately leave at least the US and mostly likely China, and thus the world, a nuclear wasteland. For what? Some ideological bullshit from Nazis assmad that the communists won the civil war in China? Let it fucking go. Holy fuck.
(Also, I don't believe China has any plans at all to take Taiwan back "soon." One day, maybe. But like I said, if they wanted to do it they could just do it. The fact they don't serves as enough evidence for me that the US state dept is full of shit as usual)
- It’s not just ideological bullshit. Taiwan is a load bearing geographical and geopolitical location central to The Burger Reich’s ability to project force in and to control Asia.
  
  Well let me clarify my usage of bullshit. That's all bullshit as in "The USA has no right and should hold no belief that it has the right to project force anywhere beyond its internationally recognized borders. Especially not halfway across the globe." That belief is definitely an ideology among the US ruling elite.
  The reference to right wingers still being mad over communists winning in China was mostly meant to be mocking and a little jab/reminder that the guy the west picked to win lost.
  I didn't intend to imply the entire reason the US/west is obsessed with Taiwan is solely due to the communists winning. There are very real underlying reasons for keeping things how they are as you outlined. It's just fun to remind the hogs that they lost in a dismissive way.
- The US keeps saying China wants to take back Taiwan, often by playing up the ocean disputes with Vietnam and the Philippines and their military buildup, but I honestly just think it's an excuse to build up for the future war they want against China after Iran (or instead? Not sure which they want to do first).
  The military advancements just seem like an obvious response to the provocations by the US. The ocean dispute things I don't really know. That might just be a China nationalism L lol. Or to stop themselves from being encircled by US allies and proxies?
- Hot take maybe but I think all china has to do with Taiwan is wait
  
  I don't think that's a hot take at all. I'm pretty sure that's exactly what they're doing.
  "When your enemy is shooting himself in the head repeatedly, just wait."
  Missing chapter from The Art of War
It all makes sense! Every rich person is just pleasing “investors”
Reality is so fucking banal
- capital is the all powerful god of this reality and the worship practices for it are staggeringly boring compared to those for pretty much any other god in history
Feel like it's old info? i've heard this before in spring maybe?
- Maybe. CNN says this is new audio they just released last night.

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