3w ago

Did you know that there are no instances defederated from pro-AI content Lemmy.dbzer0.com?

Defederation Investigator

(barring instances with hidden blocklists)

Apart from setting up and running your own instance to defederate*, there is no way of making your feed filter out the subset of users from dbzer0 who think they should spread their instance’s values of AI content across all parts of the Fediverse, whether or not it is welcome there. If somebody could set up an instance with this community’s values and filters in mind, I imagine that would be helpful to many of us. This instance could be adapted to defederate from other AI-spreading instances as well.

Fediseer, the default web tool for instances to document issues and endorsements of other instances, which incidentally is maintained by the admin of db0, shows that lemmy.dbzer0.com has received no censures whatsoever from other instances.

*or instead manually blocking every user from dbzer0, which would be futile as they continue to gain users

[EDIT: Since many people seem confused, here is how blocking an instance works:

Given that instances X, Y, and Z are all federated with each other:

If I am hosted on instance X and I block instance Y but don’t block instance Z, users from instance Y can still post/comment onto communities hosted on instance Z and I will still see these posts/comments.

Only by defederating from instance Y would the content made by instance Y users that is posted onto any instance become wholly filtered out for users on instance X.]

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Fuck off with purity tests for other instances. That’s how the community eats itself alive.
If you don’t like their comms, don’t subscribe them.
Signed, an occasional db0 user who hates AI.
- I don’t even understand the OPs argument. We are generally respectful towards other people and communities, lack of defederation is the best proof. Why would OP want to defederate with db0 even if as OP said, doesn’t even know if AI content is something of concern or not?
  EDIT: even better, OP is not a registered user of .world…
  
  Keyword: “subset”
  I don’t want AI content on my feed. Pro-AI instance users continue to output AI-content non-locally. Blocking the pro-AI instance does not filter this content from my feed. Ergo, another means is necessary to filter the content of the users of this instance from my feed.
  Why would OP want to defederate with db0 even if as OP said, doesn’t even know if AI content is something of concern or not?
  I don’t understand what you’re saying but the best sense I can make of it is that you’re saying I said something that I didn’t say.
  even better, OP is not a registered user of .world…
  What does that have to do with anything? First of all, Fediverse. Second of all, my host instance is to reduce loads on larger instances (such as .world and db0) by hosting users instead of communities
- It’s not their communities. It’s the AI content that a subset of pro-AI users bring onto other instance’s communities. Is this not clear in the post?
  
  So you want to ban all users from that instance because you have a philosophical beef with some of those users?
subset of users from dbzer0 who think they should spread their instance’s values of AI content across all parts of the Fediverse,
What does that even mean? I’ve seen to evidence of pushy AI evangelicals on any instance.
If you don’t like posts from an instance, block it for yourself. You don’t need an instance to defederate.
- If you don’t like posts from an instance, block it for yourself. You don’t need an instance to defederate.
  It seems as though you misunderstand how blocking instances and defederation work. If I am hosted on instance X and I block instance Y but don’t block instance Z, users from instance Y can still post onto communities hosted on instance Z and I will still see these posts. This is what I referred to when I said “subset of users from dbzer0 who think they should spread their instance’s values of AI content across all parts of the Fediverse”. Defederating does require an instance, and only by defederating from instance Y would the content made by instance Y users that is posted onto any instance become wholly filtered out for users on instance X.
  evangelicals
  I was not meaning proselytizers, per se. More so spamming of AI content onto communities that are not local to dbzer0.
  
  Seems like the best thing for you is to create your own instance
Go into your settings, you can block whatever user, community, or instance you feel like blocking. You should have the option so you don't need to block individual users.
Defederating the entire instance seems excessive for this use case.
- Copied from other comments of mine:
  It seems as though you misunderstand how blocking instances and defederation work. If I am hosted on instance X and I block instance Y but don’t block instance Z, users from instance Y can still post onto communities hosted on instance Z and I will still see these posts. This is what I referred to when I said “subset of users from dbzer0 who think they should spread their instance’s values of AI content across all parts of the Fediverse”. Defederating does require an instance, and only by defederating from instance Y would the content made by instance Y users that is posted onto any instance become wholly filtered out for users on instance X.
  I don’t want AI content on my feed. Pro-AI instance users continue to output AI-content non-locally. Blocking the pro-AI instance does not filter this content from my feed. Ergo, another means is necessary to filter the content of the users of this instance from my feed.

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