StopKillingGames EU citizen initiative country contribution relative to population / threshold
Don’t let publishers destroy the games you bought with kill switches!
Please support the initiative of Stop Killing Games!
There's currently 40k more signatures than when this was posted yesterday. Ross' last video felt very gloomy, but the pace is picking up again. I'm hopeful. If this push keeps its momentum (likely dependant on some major streamers/news outlets picking up on it), it might just make it in time.
You Mediterranean motherfuckers need to step it up a bit
Yeah, I agree. I think the main problem is that there's not enough content in Italian, Spanish, etc. about this topic. And people in those countries follow less English-speaking channels.
From today's video, I'm under the impression the country totals no longer matter and they just need to hit 1 million signatures.
Thank you Ross!
You’re correct, we just need the signatures from any EU country.
Good job England, could've at least supplied some signutes.... /j
Not to be overly disillusioned (though I am), but does this petition accomplish anything that isn't merely performative?
If it passes, there will need to be a way to play offline or to host one's own server after the official ones shut down, or an EOL date advertised along with the product.
In the USA it's performative, but in the EU it means they will actually need to talk about it.
Yeah, so performative. I've seen quite some petitions for the German parliament which made the threshold, so that the representatives had to talk about it. They talked and all ended with "No, won't do". I expect the same to happen in the European Parliament, even after clearing those ridiculously high thresholds.
Not at all.
You can't force anyone to carry on running servers after their business dies, and you can't force them to release code that might be licensed from somebody else.
Realistically, the onus is on us, and all we can really do is refuse to buy or engage with games that use this model, and if we do then at least accept that one day it will be gone, no matter how much time and money we've tipped into it.
You can't force anyone to carry on running servers after their business dies
I am amazed at how powerful one video can be to blind people to the whole discussion.
No, no one expects them to nor does it say so anywhere in the language of the petition.
The EU can very much dictate how businesses do business in Europe. Consumer protection is one of their responsibilities.
The initiative however says nothing about forcing anyone to run servers or to release code. If you think that, you missed the entire point. Games in the past used to work just fine after being abandoned without keeping servers online or releasing code.
what on eventual law can do is force developers to plan ahead. you can absolutely force them to release code.
PirateSoftware can get fucked. I'm glad this initiative is alive again.
Sometimes you need a villain to unite against. I'm thankful he decided to go mask off.
What did PS say?
Edit - nevermind. He had a well thought out opposing viewpoint which you disagree with.
God forbid there should be a healthy discourse on a matter.
he was massively misinformed and refused to back down when shown how his argument was flawed.
L O L
Ego voice mod boy can suck it.
The initiative is not asking for retroactive enforcement.
They are asking for an end of life plan for games made after some TBD date. Something that at least gives end-users a chance that it can be played after a corporation ends support. Ideally that would be server binaries, but it could also mean documentation on how the server infrastructure works so it can be rebuilt by motivated end-users.
PS's use of League of Legends is awful because all they would need for an end of life plan (if it had been required at the time) is to add a LAN mode just like PvP games from years and years ago, I.e. Quake, Warcraft, Starcraft, Counter-Strike, Halo... Etc etc etc.
That's it. That doesn't require "endless" support.