Single psilocybin trip delivers two years of depression relief for cancer patients
Single psilocybin trip delivers two years of depression relief for cancer patients
I do not doubt this for a second. These trips, well done and accompanied, in a safe setting, can be very therapeutic.
Definitely going to be the first drug I try, when I decide to finally start using drugs.
Dude start off with something more mellow, or you're going to be extremely disappointed if/when you decide to try other drugs. Psychedelics are so intense that I don't even consider them to be drugs. They're something else entirely. A "god molecule", if you will.
I'd suggest starting off with Nitrous Oxide and/or weed first. Nitrous has psychedelic properties (but without the visuals), and cannabis can also be psychedelic when you have no tolerance. Also they last more in the minute range—not hours (especially nitrous)—so they'll wear off a lot quicker should you decide you don't like the feeling.
Trust me, I've tried every drug under the sun. I'm a daily or near-daily user of several substances; psychedelics like shrooms are the one substance that I avoid. Only for special occasions, once every few years at most. Not the very first thing I'd try. It would be the very last.
I appreciate the deep personal insights and advice. Well taken.
Everybody is different, and it depends on what you're after. Research different substances of interest, how they work, contraindications, best practices for use, and the kind of effects they have. From there, select any specific substance you want to try, and do so responsibly.
There's lots of folks out there who have done mushrooms or other psychedelics as their first non-alcohol psychoactive experience. The trick is getting at least some understanding of what you're getting into first and preparing accordingly. I also wouldn't compare different compounds with different effects/mechanisms of action in a way that would make you disappointed/underwhelmed/whatever. They're different and should be evaluated on their own terms.
That's just me though.
Ketamine too. You can get it in a clinical setting without a prescription. It has a half life of about twenty minutes so if it’s not your thing it’s over quickly. One session gets you two separate doses, so you trip for about an hour, and feel totally normal afterward. Great for depression too.
In a non clinical setting, ket lasts about two hours but you pull up more sober than weed or booze.
TBH partner and I are keen to give this a go for anxiety/depression. Keen for it to become standard)/accepted
If you have an interest, you're ready for them. For what it's worth, I find that the bad trips are the most beneficial. They're a manifestation of problems often ignored, displayed in a way that is highly symbolic.
What were the numbers for people who just got therapy?
Yeah, that is the key question. Not to mention that the headline is giving 100% of the 'credit' to the psilocybin.
Smells fishy to me.
Meaning like a single therapy session? The answer is close to zero
No. The group that tripped once was getting regular therapy sessions both before and after. There should have been a control group getting the same amount of therapy, but the article makes no mention of their percentage rates.
what a coincidence
I just came out of a trip with my bf
he had a really bad trip, unfortunately. I gave him alprazolam and it did nothing
after about 3-4 hours he got better, took a shower, ate, now he's sleeping soundly
iirc from research I've read it doesn't matter if the trip is good or bad, it still relieves depression all the same
yeah, that's what I heard too
I hope the experience what some kind of catharsis and he's gonna learn from it
I didn't have depression, but I wanted to try the experience after hearing how much someone I knew enjoyed it. I had a terrible trip (in a safe space, with good intentions, an experienced user I trusted very deeply, etc. etc. etc.) and suddenly developed pretty gnarly depression and felt like an unnamed part of my brain was missing/out of reach for over 2 years... I'm only one data point and my experience seems uncommon, but I definitely won't be touching shrooms ever again. It's only in the last 6 or so months that I've felt more "myself" and have been making progress out of the hole I was dropped into.
after my trip my depression went way down even if my ex was pissed at me during it (surprisingly didnt make me crash)
should take it again soon as that was almsot 5 years ago
I think its important that talking therapy was included too.
Yeah for me 4 times a year would be ideal but i tend to put it off a lot even though the experience is always enjoyable
Bullshit.
I have experienced depression relief from tripping on shrooms, but not for two fucking years afterwards
Man, every time someone posts science some has to go "Nuh uh! I have data (n=1) that says otherwise!
True but this research itself also only has a 28 sample size, and respond rate is only about half too.
Psilocybin appears to rewire your brain. It has long been known that guided trips can have very long lasting benefits. This study includes therapy, which is critical for cementing the long term benefits of psilocybin treatment.
Yes, I only posted the summary, because I wondered how many critics would actually rta.
This is not the only study that points to lasting relief from depression. Your experience is valid, but also anecdotal and not necessarily representative at large.
Best way to get some?
You can easily grow mushrooms that contain psilocybin at home. It's an easy process, the internet has plenty of communities.
If you are not very experienced with psychedelics, please inform yourself about best practices / harm reduction. Look into set and setting. Have people around who you trust.
For most people, psychedelics are not a substitute for therapy. The healing happens in between trips, but you have to put in the work - don't skip integration. The average Joe will need professional help for that.
If you have serious issues or if you are repressing a lot of stuff, it will most likely come up during a trip and you will have to process it - psychedelics show you what you need, not what you want. That being said, most people that have a lot of experience with psychedelics will tell you even difficult trips will lead to positive gains.
Overall, it's mostly a marvelous and wonderful experience that can be life changing, but please treat it with the respect it deserves.
as much as I don't like linking there, the /r/unclebens community is great. It's based on a very easy guide to grow your own, and get advise if there are still questions.
I don't think there's a lemmy community about it. yet.
100% agree with the post. The chances that you will just get cured from your depression with some shrooms are greater than 0, but getting an assistent trip with a professional will greatly increase your chances. Getting a professional who is willing to do it, even off the record, is the hard part
I would not qualify it as easy. It is doable, but it takes a bit of time, effort and equipment. Did it twice, first time failed, second round I finally figured out my problems. Took a few months before I had anything worth keeping.
You could also just go to Denver and buy some there. I had a lovely day with a friend after eating some local chocolate and hanging out in cheeseman park. 10/10 would do again.
Depression? You can have some of mine, I have more than enough for everyone.
https://www.schedule35.co/us/
/r/unclebens
There sidebar has a full tutorial.
So I went on a mushroom walk once, they were literally growing in a grass field. Look up liberty cap. Obviously don't just eat random mushrooms that you find
What country are you in?The internet.I like the shop around the corner