First time?
First time?
First time?
How...How have I gone so long without hearing about any of this at all? Like I always hear we are evil, but the specifics are chalked up to 'cold war hysteria/propaganda'
Consider me spooked, and many thanks for the awareness boost OP!
US history programs are 95% propaganda so it’s not surprising.
Same with US state, NGO, and corporate media.
Unitedestadian has long been the term used to describe USA citizens by the Spanish-speaking population of the Americas. Not their fault the country picked a length intro title and a vague region as their country name. Imagine if the UK was the UKE, United Kingdom of Europe, and called themselves Europeans by default. The other 90% would be pissed and make their own names, no?
Oh those darn bootlickers! 😅
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usonia
I wish this had stuck.
Instead of 'american' or USian or others, why not Yankee? It has historical significance to the united states, originated a a pejorative, and the south hates it. Perfect
I’m literally a yankee, as in a lifelong resident of the area north of the Mason-Dixon line and I’ve visited several historical civil war sites over the decades because they’re among the inexpensive points of interest within several hours of here.
I think you’re both kind of right. Everything the previous comment said is correct IMO about it starting with a negative connotation and people in the south probably hating it. But modern online usage feels pretty respectful too. Even in a professional setting, if I were on a typical call and somebody from Europe referred to somebody thousands of km (or miles, lol) away on the other side of the US as one of the yankees/yanks, I don’t think it would even register as something I’d remember. (well NOW it will because of this comment, thanks lemmy! :D )
Plus more recently, those of us who do wild shit like pay attention to the outside world don’t exactly take offense to people insulting this fucked up country/government/culture/etc. We’re right here agreeing with you. So something like “yankee” doesn’t stand out much when you read somebody across the world write “fuck all USians” and you think to yourself “…I can see that. That’s fair.”
In Australia we call them "seppos". Short for "septics", which comes via rhyming slang from "yank" -> "tank" -> "septic tank".
Just lower case "yank" will suffice. That one's already in use.
I prefer gringo thanks.
USian here, and totally agree. The willful ignorance is stunning to behold.
But help me with my potential ignorance here - is this meme also suggesting that ordinary citizens of other developed countries know about these things? Do high school history and social studies classes have a day or a week that discuss US imperialism & shady dealings of recent decades?
My impression has always been that people in other countries read about this awful shit in the same places I do online, and that the differences in mainstream knowledge are about much more basic stuff like coal and climate change being bad while healthcare is good.
Do high school history and social studies classes have a day or a week that discuss US imperialism & shady dealings of recent decades?
No, that's the entire curriculum. Kinda impossible not to properly discuss a country's hystory without mentioning the US when the US has been fucking with it
How they will teach about the military dictatorship era of my country without mentioning Operation Condor?
A lot of this is really old so it's the kind of thing my parents casually mentioned when I was growing up.
But then we learn the details at University, either in history classes or more broadly in any kind of discussion of colonialism, neoimperialism, etc.
Belgian here. Nope. No idea what they're on about.
In Mexico City we even have a museum dedicated to foreign interventions, and we are not really an AES state.
Austrian here - 1st question: no idea. 2nd question: no Same here, US imperialism was never discussed as such in my history lessons during the late 80ies and 90ies. Would read about these atrocities only mich later, maybe in more "official" sources only if you're a student of history or politics and such.
The hell is a USian?
Citizen of the United States
There are two United States.
Also, Dude, American is not the preferred nomenclature. USian, please.
Jeez, Davel, I'm not talking about the guys who expelled the fucking British empire from their tyrannical petite bourgeoisie slave kingdom here.
I also was hoping it was different from USAian. Needs more 'Merica
Sounds like a term created by those people who get weirdly upset at Americans being called Americans because "America is 2 continents so technically everyone from North and South America is American"
Can't blame them who the fuck would want to get associated with USians
Yea, because it is weird, you dolt. It’s literally just because it’s easier to say that it stuck, but it’s flatly useless. The country’s name is stupid, hard to deal with, and pretty much only the reality on the surface…much like the country itself.
I just say “US citizens”. It would probably be more accurate to say “citizens of the USA” buy my fucking god they aren’t worth that kind of effort.
First time seeing "United Statesian" idek what to say besides I hope to never encounter it again
I prefer usonian, but ppl seem to hate that even worse. Much shorter than saying "US citizen", and also not going along with the US cooption of the term america.
I find Burgerlander just rolls off your tongue easier
I use Yank. I understand some Yanks think Yank only applies to New Englanders. I don't care, they're all Yanks.
usaan myself
should start saying gringo, it also started as a way to protest against us troops (green-go)
Just call them burgers
Usonian evokes that weird Frank Lloyd Wright concept of kitschy suburbia that the US could do with substantially less of.
I, too, wish to never encounter an unitedstatian
Goooood sleep!
Speaking as a...USian?...many of us know about these already and are ashamed of them.
I can assure you that you are giving the general public far too much credit unfortunately.
Remember, the #1 search on google on Election Day was “did Joe Biden drop out”
Remember, the #1 search on google on Election Day was “did Joe Biden drop out”
Jesus fucking christ. I have not read that before, but it is the most believable thing I’ve seen all week.
I’ll look it up tomorrow. I am always curious, but I cannot handle having this fact confirmed to me right now, lol.
I'm going to bet that if I did one of those street interview things with the question: "Do you know what operation condor is? Do you know what the phoenix program is?" I'd get maybe 1 usonian out of 300 that would have even heard of them.
tbf i didnt recognize any the names but reading about each one was like "oh yeah that thing, i knew about that".
26k people killed in the Phoneix Program alone.
People also forget what they did and continue to do in the marshall islands and their literal apartheid there.
Instead of 'american' or others,
Ranch hand? I can only think of one thing that could be for and it's not food. lmao
Thx. I def recommend reading some articles that get into the depravity of some of these. Outside of the at least half a million people killed in the above operations, the coups, tortures, dissappearances, and entire communities wiped out is staggering.
Some more short blurbs :
Shhhh they still don't know radio free Asia is a CIA project.
Is this real or some kind of joke? I'm just now learning about all of this and am almost traumatized honestly.
Is this far cry 4
Gladio targeted all of Europe, not just the East. Remember that the Communist parties were strong in the west too, especially in Italy and France. Hell, they were part of the government under De Gaulle as members of the coalition.
The cia under dulles had a few plots to assassinate De Gaulle. And yet still somehow the French didn't care and aligned with the US anyway.