Someone found this phone advertisment on Facebook

Your purchase includes a 12-month Sailfish OS full license subscription valued at €59.88 (€4.99/month), granting access to all releases, commercial components, and feature upgrades. After the first year, you can choose to continue your subscription and support Sailfish OS development further. Even without renewal, your device will continue to function, but future software updates and commercial component upgrades will not be available.

I’m honestly fine with that, if people don’t like it they can use Nemo OS, Ubuntu Touch and Postmarket OS instead.
- Well i am undecided but i find it fair.
  Just thought it would be nice to know that if you see that company

Linux phone but not open source :-(

AND... You end up with an outdated OS if you don't pay for the subscription.
- Saw that, I guess you can switch to Ubuntu touch, postmarket OS or a couple of others, but this is the single reason I didn't just buy it right now.
  I would also like to know what the camera is like on it, but having to pay for an OS subscription every year is just nope for me.
They're literally making the same mistake Nokia made with Maemo. It's the same people after all.
But I guess it's at least working out financially because they've been around for a while now.
Ya fuckin' pointless

If this had the proper US bands I'd really like to try it. Sailfish (previously Meego) is such a sublime interface. The ability to add a few Android apps that you still need is just the cherry on top.

SailfishOS also supports Sony Xperia 10 devices
- Only up to 10 V , but it also has some community supported devices
Sailfish OS has the best UI out of any mobile os hands down.
- I much prefer aosp with gestures enabled. That diagonal swipe was hit or miss for me

Keyyyyboaaard pleeaaaassee

Really miss the Jolla OS. As the first smartphone I used, after it when I got an android it felt like going back in many ways. But at least I didnt have to care anymore about android support and how bat it sometimes was. Have no idea how the OS is nowadays.

That's cool. Unfortunately Linux phones, including Sailfish, aren't really fit for daily use yet, imo.

Also, the choice to use Sony phones confuses me. I cannot think of a worse design choice for a phone.

They aren't particularly secure, or particularly well built, I just don't see a reason to base the OS on them.

Unfortunately Linux phones, including Sailfish, aren’t really fit for daily use yet, imo.
Consider this:
"Jolla’s AppSupport enables embedded Linux platforms to run Android apps seamlessly." (SOURCE)
”Yet” ??
I had the OG Jolla as my daily driver circa iPhone 4 era, and it was great experience overall. Running Android apps and whatnot. Eventually the camera and display quality made me stop using it. Still boot it maybe once a year for the fun of it… I think the Sailfish OS did even receive updates till ~2021.
- How does Sailfish get around most banking apps requiring Google play services, for example?
Is this true in Europe? It seems like you can make phone calls and text with Linux phones over there
- Now that you mention it, the reviews I've seen from people complaining these phones have major issues were from people from the US.
  In that case I don't know.
I guess they can be happy to have any manufacturer working with them. Sony is better than no partner.

Here's a review that I thought was decent, from 4 months ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROOubWeuNs4&pp=0gcJCdgAo7VqN5tD