Mall Ninjas got coppettition

Everyone is getting into these nuances (like, the goggles can be unclipped.) But if you know you are going on to a goddamn airplane, why would you wear any of this big bulky shit in the first place? You’re limiting your ability to move in a crowded space. You know he doesn’t have a gun because he went through TSA (because those guys are super accurate and professional, right?) so this “bad guy” could just start crawling over seats to try to get past you and get off the plane, meanwhile you’re stuck in the aisle like a turtle on its back with your Ya’ll Queso beer belly and all your big boy GI Joe gear.

It's not just that. More people need to know about how escalation works. Yes, there's a strong tactical advantage to being more prepared than your adversary. At the same time, you have to consider what the opposition will do to attack/defend when confronted with superior numbers, weapons, and body armor; they'll likely try to match that force as much as they can. Since it's a space filled with civillians, this ramps up the risk of the operation tremendously (e.g. take a hostage or get dissapeared). They would have done much better to dress like typical cops without all the tac gear. Yanno, de-escalating the situation rather than the opposite. The passengers on this plane should be pissed.
- Remember when they mag dumped the UPS truck in FL and killed hostage, suspect, and bystander all at the same time? As long as they get to use their toys, anything approaching ROE or tactical plans beyond “shoot everyone and sort it out later” are just a waste of their time since no one penalizes the behavior.
Maybe their hoods are in the laundry.
- Not enough bleach in the world to clean the shit off of those
These fascists want to feel like big, tough soldiers but aren't qualified for military service.
It makes them feel powerful and cool, that's it. They're insecure, broken, pathetic, childish man-babies who need that gear to feel that they're in charge. It's not about what's useful and logical, it's about them psychologically needing it and also thinking it makes them look threatening.

Serious question, what was the guy being arrested for where they needed to be armored but don't have guns drawn on the supposedly dangerous criminal?

Need to make people fear dying or going to a death camp so they don't interfere.
- Showing strength but claiming weakness to get more power to do further actions only they find excusable. Classic fascist.
If there's one place you don't need to be armored, it's arresting someone on a plane. Everyone has already been screened by security and even their nail clippers have been confiscated.
You don't dictate your outfit in the vast majority of military organizations, you just get told where to go and what to do.
- This isn't military.
- Police you're looking at police at least ostensively.
  Presumably you have an entire brain inside that skull of yours and it would be a shame not to use it

I have friends that served in Afghanistan, Iraq, and even some that volunteered in Ukraine, and each one, to a man, has said they didn't have half the toys these tin soldiers carry while they were in an ACTIVE FUCKING WARZONE.

In those wars the money was for pockets, not equipment.

IIRC that all the clothes they had because their regular gear got wet and the dry cycle hadn’t finished by the time they got called to the plane. The news I got also said they were wearing tactical gstring panties.

It makes them feel desired! Don't slut shame them.

One of my guilty pleasures is watching horrible videos of people being removed from planes and arrested for being way too drunk.

On airplanes what they do with someone who won't leave their seat is get everyone off the plane, and then arrest the person at the gate as they leave, or drag them kicking and screaming from the plane.

The fact that they wanted to show up in full CODBLOPS TACTICOOL GEAR for this shit is the most disturbing part.

Drunk white women? Everyone gets off the plane and the Karen is hauled screaming.

(What is likely a) Misdemeanor immigration violation?? We're going in there like fucking Snake from Metal Gear.

Shithole country.

Shithole species.

Shithole phylum.

Embrace fungus.

Its a damn shame lemmy doesn't have a repost feature.

Gestapo did invest a lot in nice Hugo Boss image.

Most cops have some kind of tactical gear kept in the trunk of their car. They don't mess with it for each call they grab and go.

I'd rather have them wear night vision for nothing than spend an extra 10 minutes fucking around in the parking lot to not.

But I do agree with the main point of the post. Clothing plays a part in our psyche. If you dress sharp you'll act sharp. If you dress slopply you'll act sloppy. If you dress like a soldier you'll act like one, and that usually isn't what cops should be doing. Hammers seeing nails and all that.

i’d rather they not exist as a paramilitary arm of the state with a license to murder people. the same people they pretend have rights.
- In this case both points are correct:
  That shit probably sucks to install and remove, and only SWAT should need it.
It always embarrassed Samuel Vimes when civilians tried to speak to him in what they thought was “policeman.” If it came to that, he hated thinking of them as civilians. What was a policeman, if not a civilian with a uniform and a badge? But they tended to use the term these days as a way of describing people who were not policemen. It was a dangerous habit: once policemen stopped being civilians the only other thing they could be was soldiers.
- GNU Sir Terry
Dont they have clips for quickly getting them on/off?
- They do, but it's cops so it might take them a minute lol. Other than speed taking off the nvgs also fucks with the balance of the helmet. The other stuff on the back acts as a counterweight. Still removable but still I bet they just wanted to grab and go
Point blank, cops shouldn’t have swat gear or be treated as a paramilitary group. They’re supposed to protect and serve. Cops shouldn’t be a tactical force, they should be public servants.
- That was before the 1997 North Hollywood robbery, which changed all that.
- I agree, however I could argue there are times when having a tactical force IS the public service. Not saying the pic posted would be one of those times though

They really just sent in the gravy seals for this op.

Meal Team 6 is on the case!

The night vision is one thing, but the obese US police officers wearing tactical/military gear is fucking worse.

We are definitely in an era where people just want to feel powerful or in control and will ignore any level of atrocities to that end. And it's easy to lie to yourself. Because you will say what you want to hear.

10% of the population is still getting everything it could want and the lies that its all worth it. I don't know how we retrigger empathy though in a world of manufactured apathy.

Cops cosplaying as soldiers. Christ I hate this timeline. They’re pathetic.

Small penis syndrome.

Some human monkeys will reach for higher goals, like knowledge and/or a truer sense of community to what we have.
Some human monkeys will get mesmerized by shiny bling, which on an intellectual level is an equivalent to rubbing feces on themselves and flashing their teeth.

There's a painting from WWI, done by a German artist, can't remember the name, but it's like a portrait of your generic military general. You cannot see the body nor the face, it's all covered in hundreds of meaningless badges and medals.
We still see this bullshit today in any official picture from a Pyongyang parade, just look at the generals standing beside the "dear leader" or whatever they call him.

These stunted mindless grunts on the airplane are a reflection of man's failure to transcend the goddamned swamp from which we came.

which on an intellectual level is an equivalent to rubbing feces on themselves
I just got a little stuck on this part, because wouldn't the equivalent be people rubbing feces on themselves? I just mean that we can do that, too, is all.

tacticool gear.

Quick. Someone make a /mallninjashit community. This would be a great first post. Just sayin'

It's not about fighting for "my (twisted) view" of a fair world. It's about me finally having the chance to act upon my wet dreams of power and cosplaying as the 'badass' image I always wanted to be, and how empowering it is to be able to pick on the weak.

I bet you, these are only 'cosplaying' as elite soldiers fighting an imaginary war because cosplaying as superman or batman would be far too obvious and non-threatening in real life - seriously, who wouldn't laugh at these clowns who think they're serious shit? Otherwise you'd absolutely see the barely-laughable Justice League or the wannabe Avengers going down the street dishing out 'justice' cartoon-style.

Peace and Justice are only as strong as the willingness to recognize and punish those who break the rules. If there's no consequences for breaking the law all of those pretty values aren't worth anything, and anarchy ensues.

It’s part of their uniform, fastened to their helmets

Edit: apparently they are clip-on, then it's just stupid

Edit 2: Say something -> get corrected -> admit you were wrong and correct your initial comment -> still get downvoted

Why is the lemmy downvote spiral like this ?

Why do they need helmets? Are they a biker department?
Those are on clips so you can remove them when not needed, preventing you from beating the shit out of your NVGs as they tend to be expensive.
Oh man Lemmy will literally just keep downvoting because they saw someone else do it. It's way worse here than even like stack overflow.
I don't know if people just don't read and make their own opinions or if people think everyone here is in their group so any downvoting/dogpiling must be deserved.
Maybe it's just a disgust at anything unfactual even if corrected but boy does it kill conversation that barely exists.
To keep their reptilian brains from slipping out their ear holes.
It’s about more than just the NVGs. It’s their whole everything. These cosplaying fascists think they are literally at war with the world. They don’t Need ANY of what they’re wearing and they shouldn’t be wearing it.

Another factor is onlookers doing nothing - or worse filming it to quickly share with other idiots.

FILM THE COPS. Everyone. Every time. This is the only way to remind them that they are not immune to criticism.
- Good advice, but check the local laws first–it's illegal to film cops in my country for example.
  Edit: I didn't mean 'don't do it', I meant 'be very careful while you do it'. Also, while technically legal to record them, the law also says that the police can make you stop recording and take your device from you. Then, in practice not in the written law, they will beat you and throw you in jail for a couple days accused of attacking a law enforcement officer (which usually carries charges of terrorism), the judge will find you guilty since police have something called 'presumption of veracity' here (maybe not if your rich enough idk, all the people I've seen in this situation were poor). This is all in an EU country. Stay safe out there, pigs are dangerous everywhere.
My dude your privilege is showing. In some places around the world if you see guys dressed like this and start walking towards them you will not be found....
- This does not exclude 1st world countries, especially with recent events in USA.