What shitty things have your favourite bands/artists done?
What shitty things have your favourite bands/artists done?
Discovered recently that Electric Wizard were kinda dicks back in the day. "At the time, we were pretty bad people. I got arrested for arson of a car, outside a police station. Tim [Bagshaw] went to nick a crucifix off a church roof so we could use it onstage..."
R. L. Burnside killed a man "possibly at a craps game."
Varg of Mayhem Burzum burned a couple churches and killed a bandmate.
I could list other examples, but would like to hear from other people and other music genres.
Well, if it's shitty things you want: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Matthews_Band_Chicago_River_incident
Came in here to mention how much a of a dick Maynard was to a seamstress friend of mine. It was an hour or so before showtime and she had the audacity to replace the button on his vintage leather Cavaricci pants with one that wasn't an actual Cavaricci button. He treated her like a foolish peasant that should have been more prepared to deal with an elite. Seems kinda light considering the other posts, but anytime I can call him out for being a dick, I'mma do it.
Edit: a letter.
I used to love Avenged Sevenfold back in like 2005/2006. They used to fly confederate flags at their concerts, and even had custom guitars with the confederate flag panted on them. Back then I didn't understand the significance of that, but that's really fucked.
At least they have apologized for it and said they regret doing it. I believe people are capable of learning from their mistakes, but tbh, I haven't kept up with them so I'm not sure if they have truly become better people than they were back then.
I grew up on a lot of metal bands, including Iced Earth. Absolutely loved them, even saw them open for Megadeth as a kid.
Then Jon Schaffer went and proudly participated in the Jan 6 attack, so now it's kinda hard to listen to their music anymore.
Also hard to listen to Megadeth these days, too. Partly because they stopped being good after Risk, but also partly because Dave Mustaine turned into a born-again Christian nutjob.
deadmau5 used to be a massive internet edgelord for very much over a decade (think the targeted harassment of Krewella was particularly awful, even if their producer shared his lawyer) until he had some heated moments that forced him to realise he wasn't all there and change his ways. He's still very truthful about the world of EDM but he's not the edgelord he once was, and he's much better for it.
Wouldn't say I was a big fan of them at the time, but LostProphets.
Ian Watkins is currently serving a 30 year sentence in prison for multiple child sexual offences - incredibly vile shit.
Apparently people had suspected he was a nonce long before he was arrested.
Many former fans went so far as to burn merch, trash CD's and pretty much disavow the band once the news came out. His former band mates dissolved the band and started No Devotion in its place.
The time Josh Homme kicked that lady in the face
Also this fucker (bassnectar)
I have always loved Rammstein and I still do, however this summer their vocalist was accused of sexual abuse of fans or something but the lawyers found no offense so nothing happened, though apparently they did have a manager for finding hot fans for the band's aftershow parties which is kinda nasty but not illegal
Justin Sane, frontman of punk rock's Anti-Flag, was recently accused of "predatory behavior, sexual assault, and statutory rape."
Allegedly he'd eyefuck girls from the stage during shows in a very "That's right, I'm a rockstar, lookin' at you" kind of way, and somehow get them invited backstage later.
His bandmates disbanded after the news broke. Bandmates say they weren't aware, that they stand with the victims, and they condemn his actions.
I saw Anti-Flag at a small venue years back and it makes me wonder if it happened to fellow concertgoers that night.
Andrew Wood, lead singer of Mother Love Bone, recorded a song ostensibly about how he'll always love heroin more than his long time girlfriend/fiancé then ten days later he overdosed and died.
Kanye: hmm
Well, King Buzzo tells this shitty story about Mike Patton
More than a few of the musicians whose music I like have gotten in trouble for grooming, being pedos, and abusing minors. Two come to mind immediately because I found out recently: BoyInABand and Geoxor. There's probably more musicians like that whose news I haven't heard of.
edit: I don't follow this band but seems like lostprophets had an even worse situation.
Edit2: I read a bunch of the comments and a very prevalent trend is musicians getting in trouble for being pedos. Why so common?
I used to love Brand New back in high school and college. When The Devil and God are Raging Inside Me came out, it pretty much captured my life for months. Turns out that the album's lyrics were a little more.. autobiographical than most people thought, and Jesse Lacy is a shitty person.
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Varg killed Euronymous because Euro was talking about making a snuff film of Varg because he (E) was jealous of how much success Varg was having with his own project and activities.
Keep in mind that Euronymous's response to his band's vocalists' suicide was to take a picture of his dead body and collect pieces of his skull to hand out to his friends as necklaces. Out of all the shitty things Varg Virkernes has done in his life, killing Euronymous just about makes up for it.
Oooof.
Arcade Fire: Win Butler is a sex pest.
Brand New: Jessie is a groomer of underage girls.
Marilyn Manson: his videos from 2009- pretty much lay it out in the open, but he's the fucking worst physical and emotional abuser of women. Just a shit human being.
I have stopped purchasing these artists merch and they have all been removed from my Spotify. Their records now live in my basement. When I must listen, I listen to my personal rips, alone.
I like the Beatles, and there's the obvious clique joke of "John beats his wives, ya know?"
I like a grand total of one Megadeath song, "Hanger 18". That bad is very troublesome. I feel bad for enjoying it, but I don't pay for it, so I guess that's better? But it's nostalgic for me, and I like the words "Military intelligence, two words combined that can't make sense."
I'd have to go through each bands' wikipedia page, but I think some of the worst things are;
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Disagreed on who wrote what, leading to members leaving or the band breaking up
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Disagreed on who owns the name, leading to court battles and the band splitting in two
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Important members leaving, and while the band is still fun to listen to both new and old songs, its not the same
And of course the dreaded sin of "Why does no one know who I am talking about, they need more fans." but that's not really a thing of their own.
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I wonder how many hotel rooms They Might Be Giants have trashed
literally just being dave mustaine
I was a big fan of G.G. Allin, so it's hard to pin point just a single moment, but we'll let google and your imaginations take you there. It's pretty trippy.
When I was super young and listening to ace of bass i learned one of the members was also a white supremacist.
Lead singer of L7 whipped her used tampon at an asshole like a fucking champ.
Maybe not as bad as the others…
I’ve been a NOFX fan for about 25 years; still am.
Their whole Vegas shooting country music joke was really hard to wake up to & read as a fan. Also the ripple effect that had on the other bands playing with them; the shows getting canceled; it was all a huge shitshow.
Having said that, I’m sure NOFX themselves have done more fucked up things than that joke, but the timing and lack of sensitivity was really a gut punch (not just to the fans, but the people of Vegas and the victim’s families).
If I had a nickel for every time one of my favorite noise artists was accused of sexual assault by another artist I follow, I'd have two nickels. Which isnt a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice (Michael Gira from Swans was accused by Larkin Grimm and Alexis Marshall from Daughters was accused by Kristin Hayter).
My favorite musicians, writers, sports stars, and TV crew are pretty cool for the most part, though there's a childhood program of mine where all the original actors just hate working with one another, to the point where when Jason David Frank ended his life a few months ago, only one actress said a single word of sympathy. Arguably worse than being a jerk to the fans, from a certain perspective. That and the company/studio has some very EA-esque habits.
one more, found out a tech deathcore guitarist defaced a synagogue with nazi graffiti. got caught an apologized but still rockin burzum merch fml what is wrong with this genre lol.
Hyper Potions. They split due to the other member being involved in pedophilia and rape, which shocked me when I heard about it.
Lead singer of sonsombre is a card carrying member of the sons of the Confederacy.
Mellowed out over time. They all do it and it makes me sad.
Oh hey I know what this hardcore three piece needs, a symphony backed album. A rock ballad. A mandolin solo. Interpretive drums. Take something pure and water it down until it is no longer recognizable.
Give me loud riffs, simple drums, and boss lyrics pls.
I really liked this band called Issues but the band simply disbanded after some allegations of the lead singer grooming teenagers when him he was 18 surfaced. He didn't denied it and gave some very stupid apologies claiming that it was his fault for being too accessible to fans. Like, I get that he was 18 at the time but that is a very shitty excuse. I really miss them making new music, they were amazing.
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I don't know about what they've done, but some of the lyrics in songs by The Offspring are pretty questionable.
"I wish I could fix you... and make you how I want you"
or there's an entire song called "she's got issues" - which is a fucking jam - where the singer is complaining about how his abused girlfriend thinks SHE'S the victim when HE'S the one who has to put up with her.not the greatest look.
Red House Painters, specifically Mark Kozelek. I think the things he was accused of were from his Sun Kil Moon days, but it still sucks. Those first couple of albums I have listened to dozens of times.
Crystal Castles and Sweet Trip also have intraband sexual assault allegations, which really sucks because then I'm a fan of both the victim and the predator.
I quite enjoyed The Orion Experience, until there were allegations of the guy being creepy with underage fans.
Aaaand... unsubscribe.
I don’t know if anyone put Alice Cooper on here…Voyager doesn’t seem to have a feature to search within threads…
A regular guy who puts on a bunch of makeup, goes on stage and says “it’s ok to be weird…just be yourself” and then to turn your back on trans kids like he’s just another transphobic boomer… Oof. I can never respect him again.
Raped women(alegedly) (Rammstein).
Metallica when they shut the bed and started attacking their fans.
Salvador Dali was alleged to have beat his wife if I remember correctly. I don't remember what the details were, I think there was abuse there as well.
I was fairly partial to "tie me kangaroo down, sport" as a child of preteen years. Not to mention Gary Glitter songs.
Being bought up in the [UK] seventies comes with a lot of that kind of trauma these days.
I'm having to re-evaluate my life choices as a ten year old regularly in 2020s civilization.
Sam Cooke, pedo..
Roger Waters. I think he means well and wants people to be happy and that's why he's a leftist, but wow that guy can pick the wrong side in a conflict. He is a terrible advocate for the causes he supports.
Electric Callboy used to be called Eskimo Callboy until somewhat recently. Eskimo is now considered a slur for the Inuit and Yupit peoples. I'm fairly sure thay EC meant no offense by the term and rather used it out of ignorance (as evidenced by them setting in motion the presumably rather extensive process of changing their entire branding, including pulling old songs and changing all their old album covers), but given their early albums were all about edgy funny provocation, it's not a great look.