Woman doused friend in fuel, set him alight over misogynistic comment
Woman doused friend in fuel, set him alight over misogynistic comment
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Woman doused friend in fuel, set him alight over misogynistic comment
lol owned
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if a woman said something degrading to a man it wouldn't come with the weight of a sexist society going back to the dawn of fucking agriculture behind it
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So we're clear, you don't have a problem with women assaulting men?
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i do not have a structural problem with it going back to the dawn of "civilization"
one of the reasons, but not the main one, to support no-fault divorce is because it cuts down on women killing their shitty husbands.
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Do you understand the context involving why something is sexist and why assault can't be treated as the same for every demographic?
You might as be saying "Assulting a white dude for being racist to an African American is the same is a white dude assulting an African American for calling him cracker"
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Depends on how much the man behaves like you currently are
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So we're clear, you don't have a problem with women assaulting men?
Why do fuckers who think like you always dishonestly frame things this way?
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I don't think I was framing it dishonestly.
I said that if a woman was saying crass things to a man it would clearly be unacceptable for him to attack her. I think it's also unacceptable when you switch the genders.
And then the moderators deleted my comment because you guys are fucking dorks.
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No it was deleted because you are making a gross false equivalence. Of course the context matters and by swapping genders you change the very nature of what we are talking about.
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Well it's clear that you think a woman attacking a man is more justifiable than a man attacking a woman.
If there's some nuance then clearly I'm just too stupid to understand it.
People talking shit to each other ends in violence all the time but that still doesn't mean violence is the correct response.
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Yes.Well it's clear that you think a woman attacking a man is more justifiable than a man attacking a woman.
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Why?
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How does it feel to be you, @blandfordforever?
Try to explain it to a stranger who is not like you at all. Someone who has lived a different life.
It's not easy. That's because words are a poor substitute for empathy. If you really want to understand someone, you need to actually put in the cognitive effort to imagine how it feels to be them. Put yourself in their shoes. If you can't understand why it's different for a woman than for a man, it's because you've never put in any effort to imagine how it feels to be a woman.
Our words are not going to do that for you
I could sit here and list all the things that men do to women. Or I could say, "living in a sexist society as a woman is dehumanizing, much like living in a racist society as a racial minority is dehumanizing, and when a man or a white person gloats at you and acts superior, like you're nothing, like you're a piece of dirt, that gets under your skin in a way that the reverse wouldn't, because of the context, because the society that you live in and the things you have experienced."
But if you don't put in any effort to actually imagine the reality of what I'm saying, those are just words.
It's not a debate, we're not going to logic our way to an answer here. This is an exercise in empathy. You either put in the cognitive effort to actually imagine what it's like, to actually put yourself in someone else's shoes, or we're describing color to the blind.
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I think I understand a bit of what you're saying, in that the woman is reacting to what she experiences as a systematic, societal power imbalance / feels that she lives in an oppressive environment. So, a violent response from her is not viewed in the same way as a violent act from a man towards a woman, which more typically would be assumed to be in a context where he is exercising power/dominance/abusing her.
Thank you for your well-composed response. This is definitely something I'll keep thinking about.
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I have no problem with people assaulting bigots or misogynists, no. I think society would be better off.
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