Could Nightreign and Duskbloods be considered "extraction soulslikes"?

I was watching a video by Frost (used to be with Second Wind doing the Cold Takes) about extraction shooters and their recent rise to popularity and what it means for gaming. He mentioned there that Miyazaki seems to be a fan of Tarkov and that he took inspiration for their upcoming multiplayer games from the game, concluding that both Nightreign as well as Duskbloods could be considered "extraction" games. Does that fit the bill?

I mean, in a sense it does: you drop into the world, no resources which you need to farm up, you fight enemies and explore the map for more resources and weapons, and you lose all your progress once you die. Could this be a new sub-genre, then?

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That description sounds more rogue-like, can you extract in this dlc to keep your items? That’s the primary distinction between the subgenres imo
Whatever it is, it’s definitely a mashup. I saw an interesting video recently where they broke up genres into 3 different groups that worked together:
Genre - What you’re doing moment to moment. For soulslikes they’re typically third person action RPGs, but you could also have a platformer or deckbuilder.
Mode - Progression mechanics for the player. What are the rewards? Why is the player invested? The soulslikes I’ve played were branchy but story based. This is also where I’d put roguelike, extraction, metroidvania, etc.
Mood - the game’s vibe and aesthetics. Cozy, horror, grimdark, this is also where’d I’d put soulslike
Some words have associations, soulslike assumes 3rd person action unless otherwise specified, but I thought the breakdown is more interesting than the usual genre talk I see in these kinds of spaces

You're describing roguelikes
- Because they're 2D RPGs with randomized dungeons?
  I hate what "genre" has become in games, entirely meaningless. Wtf does roguelike even mean anymore when it's being used to describe multiplayer lootbox shooters?
  
  Literally the core feature of roguelikes is that you reset to base state upon death. Which is what OP described.
- Yes, true, though wouldn't an extraction shooter be also considered a roguelike then? Or a rogue-lite?
  
  I suppose so. Metaprogression is your stash that you keep between runs. Tho extraction shooters also usually include PvP during the runs, so maybe that's the distinction.

Haven't played nightreign but i don't really see it. Resources in souls games are scarce but they aren't your lifeblood-- you always have melee attacks as a viable combat mechanism. So it's possible in souls games to ignore consumables completely. Whereas shooters your primary attacks are consumable. I think this whole "extraction" description focuses too much on the extraction element which is a plot point, not a mechanic-defining genre like roguelike, soulslike, etc.

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