Kashmir crisis: India missile attack kills eight; Pakistan official says two Indian jets shot down
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Still convinced this was always the plan ever since the highly suspect (likely false flag) terrorist attack that India was foaming at the mouth over. They are trying to emulate their closest allies, the Israelis, on how to handle the occupation and ethnic cleansing of an undesirable "enemy".
Hey remember like a week ago when the threat of nuclear war wasn't imminent? That was nice.
I'm 99% sure the terrorist attack in kashmir was done by the CIA. I feel like they are trying to provoke a nuclear exchange between 2 nations that wont set off the MAD response as a way to normalize the use of Nuclear weapons. I think this was part of the plan with the war between israel and Iran but Iran didn't take the bait.
I think the USA wants to break the taboo on nukes because they are convinced it is only way america can actually win a war but it wont work if they are seen as the people who started using nukes first.
Oh god. This reminds of that "leftist" former right wing YouTuber that was trying to normalize "tactical nukes" in the Ukraine war a few years back. I forget his name. But that shit was insane. He was getting some spotlight for "leaving the right" and then really made it clear he hadn't.
I'll try to find it.
I mean Pakistan is a crucial part of the BRI, and India is in BRICS. A war between India and Pakistan would be a crippling blow to the alternate economic system that's developing outside the US right now. If this goes nuclear, then Eurasia will be most affected.
Let's all hope that China and Russia's links with India and Pakistan are enough to reign them back in and force them to talk. Sadly I don't expect much sanity from the Hindu supremacists in India and it really feels like they are the ones in the driver seat on this. "Ethno-nationalism, not even once."
This would be an incredibly stupid plan—if they start launching nukes there’s a reasonably high chance that someone else’s detection systems will cause preemptive launches and that’s all folks! Even if that didn’t happen, a serious nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan could cause a global famine for years and be nearly as catastrophic.
Of course it's a stupid plan. So was arming the anti-communist mujahideen in Afghanistan and we all know where that went. So was provoking russia in Ukraine. So was imposing tariffs on China. When have warmongers ever cared about collateral damage or things spiraling out of control? When has the stupidity and potential for backlash ever stopped the white supremacist imperialists from doing anything?
Modi's poll numbers must've been doing pretty badly if he's trying to start a war.
Doesn't China also occupy a part of Kashmir? How do they relate to this war?
They do, but as far as I know that dispute is not related to the one between India and Pakistan.
Two very important points to consider while assessing the current nuclear threat in the ongoing India–Pakistan conflict are, first, that unlike India, Pakistan does not subscribe to the No-First-Use policy. This makes it more likely that Pakistan could initiate a nuclear attack, especially since it cannot match India’s strength in conventional warfare.
Second, India, unlike Pakistan, has a robust nuclear defense system that holds the capability to deter a nuclear attack by air, land, and sea. Strategically, therefore, it would not be a sound decision for a country like Pakistan to engage in nuclear warfare. And considering the current geopolitical world order, both China and Russia would likely ensure that restraint is exercised by both India and China, and that the situation is de-escalated. While India would prefer to avoid a direct conflict with China, the odds are disproportionately stacked against Pakistan. Pakistan simply cannot afford to engage in a full-scale war with India.
Now, turning to the Kashmir issue and terrorism, it is an extremely complicated matter, and it would be naive to take sides based on binaries. What truly matters is the current condition of the people living there. Since the abrogation of Kashmir’s special status, the Indian portion of the state has experienced a semblance of democracy, albeit under heavy surveillance by the central government. Economic conditions had slowly begun to improve, and tourism had grown. The state's economy was projected to see ~7% increase in 2024–25, but after the Pahalgam attack, the situation regressed significantly. However, terrorism is not a new phenomenon in the region. Kashmir has long been disputed and has experienced consistent turmoil since its inception. With periodic armed attacks, ordinary people have found themselves trapped in a persistent political quagmire.
India and Pakistan have been in conflict for decades, but the stakes became significantly higher after both countries acquired nuclear armaments. Since then, Pakistan has been engaging with India through the proxy of terrorist organizations like Lashkar-e-Taiba. India has been subjected to a series of terrorist attacks masterminded by those organizations based in Pakistan. After the most recent attack, Pakistan’s Defense Minister Khawaja Asif even confessed on Sky News to Pakistan’s role in fostering terrorist groups. What was once an open secret has now been publicly acknowledged, leaving little room to deny Pakistan’s involvement in terrorism.
But is Modi going to take meaningful action beyond surgical strikes like Operation Sindoor? Most likely, no. This article offers a thoughtful assessment and critique of Prime Minister Modi’s foreign policy approach.
There is no doubt that right-wing sentiment is growing in India, mostly targeting Islam. However, the rapid radicalization and weaponization of economically disadvantaged Muslims across the country does not help the Muslim cause. This is very much a class issue, and the class disparity in India is enormous. Religious education of all kinds should be prohibited so that children can grow up with a more scientific temperament. For the country to thrive, religious exploitation, whether through Hindutva politics or Islamic fundamentalism, needs to be stopped.
Second, India, unlike Pakistan, has a robust nuclear defense system
I don't think such a thing exists.
You are being very charitable to India here. What Kashmir has cannot be sincerely called a democracy if you have to mention that it is heavily controlled by the centre. The deep Islamophobia is not a class issue. Union government has even tried to alter the ethnic and religious makeup of the region with policies like the settlement of Kashmiri pandits.
I think you misunderstood my comment. I never said that Kashmir has complete democracy. My personal belief is that the whole region should be fully autonomous, but we all know that's not possible. Even if India were to relinquish its part of the region, Pakistan would likely move quickly to take over the rest, and that's something a significant portion of the population there does not want.
India, as a country, is an anomaly; it shouldn't exist in its current form, but it does, and colonial rule is to be blamed for that. It is culturally, linguistically, and ideologically fragmented, and the inherent differences between its regions make it all the more surprising that India has survived this long. However, under the current leadership, social cohesion is at risk. Cracks are already visible in the southern part of the country, and similar tensions could emerge in the east as well.
Union government has even tried to alter the ethnic and religious makeup of the region with policies like the settlement of Kashmiri pandits.
So, if a region of Kashmir is to be integrated into India, it’s only fair that it follows the same laws as the rest of the states. Whether it concerns the resettlement of Kashmiri Pandits or land acquisition by non-Muslims, the same rules should apply uniformly across the country. The concept of India is based on complicated, and often flawed, decisions. Let me remind you that the socio-economic landscape of the eastern region deteriorated significantly after the introduction of the Freight Equalization Policy in the 1950s under Prime Minister Nehru’s socialist government. Still, at the time, it was seen as necessary to ensure national integration.
In my opinion, Kashmir will never see complete peace, much like Gaza. Even if Pakistan were to gain full control over the region, its fragile economy and political instability would prevent any meaningful resolution. The conflict will persist, and that is truly unfortunate for Kashmir.
The deep Islamophobia is not a class issue.
I did not correlate class with Islamophobia. Islamophobia exists across all strata of society. What I said was that it is easier to radicalize and weaponize individuals, both Hindu and Muslim, from more disadvantaged backgrounds, and this is happening at the grassroots level.
Both-sidesing this deserves the deepest eye roll. As a marxist you already should know GDP increase in a capitalist economy does not indicate who is being uplifted here. Kashmir is effectively an open air prison where Indian solidiers do wanton crimes against humanity, while privileged Indian citizens can do their tourism.
Reciting bourgoisie laws as if the elite will abide them again receives further eye rolls. Capital rules not what they purport to everyone else.
Pakistani military has long been an extension of defacto US foreign policy / dollar capital power but then so is the majority of Indian bourgeoisie apparatus from government to media.
the rapid radicalization and weaponization of economically disadvantaged Muslims across the country does not help the Muslim cause.
Why not subsitute the word Hindu in there? There is a clear power dynamic between the ruling capital and the majority of the 200 million muslims in India. The violence of the oppressed class has never in the history of humanity equivalent to the violence of oppressors.
If possible, could you make a post with your thoughts regarding India and Pakistan?
There are plenty of people that will love to read an in depth analysis of this topic. It will be highly appreciated.
First of all, I am not a Marxist, so our political ideologies might differ. Although I draw a great deal of inspiration from Marx’s work, I am more of an advocate for Social Democracy. Therefore, my views might appear more centrist to you.
Kashmir is effectively an open air prison where Indian solidiers do wanton crimes against humanity, while privileged Indian citizens can do their tourism.
I did mention in my comment that the state is under heavy central surveillance, and I also agree that the people there have been subjected to military abuses on multiple occasions. However, the majority of Kashmiris do not support Pakistani occupation of the territory. They want peace and prosperity, something that, unfortunately, neither Pakistan can give, nor the Indian government seems able to provide under the current border issues. Don’t forget that the greatest casualties in the cross-border conflicts have been Kashmiri Muslims, both literally and figuratively.
Pakistani military has long been an extension of defacto US foreign policy / dollar capital power but then so is the majority of Indian bourgeoisie apparatus from government to media.
Yes, so what about it? What are you trying to suggest?
Why not subsitute the word Hindu in there?
Did you even read what I wrote? I mentioned both Hindutva politics and Islamic fundamentalism as problems. I’m an atheist and a positivist, so I’m equally opposed to both. India is an extremely complicated country, with discrimination operating on multiple levels. Even within the majority religion, there is discrimination. Like I said, it is a class issue.
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