This happened to me at least 3 times.

LXDE sucks ass because no one has ever figured out how to mod a search bar into the start menu.
please for the love of fuck can someone please mod a search bar into LXDE.

As always the best way to get a response on the internet is not to ask a question.
The best way is to post a wrong answer.
- Classic murphys law.
  
  You are WRONG! That is Cunningham's Law!
  (Hook, line, and sinker)
  
  Good ol' Murphy. The Hammurabi of the internet.
  
  This is right and every body agrees.

This is just a variant of the "Ask question, use an alt acc to answer it incorrectly" method of getting help.
Harness the OCD of the internet (https://xkcd.com/386/)
- The best way to get the right answer on the Internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer.
  Cunningham's Law
  
  Perfect demonstration :)
- Linus Sebastian . Is this you?
- Actually, the best way is to post a question to Reddit.

Truth is, windows has plenty of such small annoyances just as well, it's just that everyone is used to the windows way of doing it, so it's not even worth joking about it.
- When I first started using Linux I was impressed with how easily everything seemed to work. Then over time I started to get annoyed with all the things that I had no idea how to fix without looking up, and thought about going back to Windows.
  Then I used windows again and was immediately reminded of all the stupid bullshit I had to constantly fight with and forgot about because that was just the norm when windows is the only OS you ever use.
  
  The times I think about switching back, I just think back to the first month on Linux full time when I realized I was no longer constantly pissed off at everything my system was doing I didn't want it to do or not doing that I did want. And a lot of it wasn't even conscious anymore, like just realizing that a constant background radiation was just ... Not there anymore.
  Of course, having to use it at work every day still helps remind me... But I'm working on at least making my workstation into a Linux box, even if the servers are still going to be Windows.
- People just don't want to have fewer annoyances that are solved differently and most often more easily. Change bad.
  
  "It's a shame anything has to change. The Sun has changed its position in the sky and I don't trust it one bit."
  Welcome to Nightvale
- I guess if I had to throw some shade at M$, I really hate how garbage the registry has become. Back in the day it was great for very specific solutions and some personalization, but now I have to crawl through hundreds of drop downs on a fresh install just to fix simple things on Microsoft's own software.

Debianees will only answer your inquiry, however, if it is worded in a proper polite way. Here is a proper, polite way to ask for tech support.
OMG! DEBIAN IS SO PATHETIC! IT CAN'T ________, BUT WINDOWS CAN _____ JUST BY CLICKING _______!
Rushing to defend their precious Linux, they will give the most descriptive, polite, useful information possible. If you use "normal" manners though, you will most likely get flamed, insulted, and receive at least 10 viruses by email. All of which will be written in "1337", for no appearent reason. Your IP will be traced, and eventually your Linux OS will be hijacked and destroyed. In some cases your CPU might melt from having to handle so much hacking by insecure "Debianees".
https://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/Debian

How is this clown behavior? If anything, not accepting the proposed solution to the issue would be it
This is more like, wisdom of the ancients kind of thing

Step (5): realise the lion's share of people have no clue how anything works, and throwing a tantrum is their only (successful) technique to any technical problem.
- When I worked as a system administrator, I discovered that most people would skip curiosity and go straight for anger and abuse. You collapsed a row in excel again and don't remember how to undo it? Time to call helpdesk and yell at them how stupid they are for breaking your computer again.

So many times I see junior Devs (or not so juniors) and normies seeing an error message and, visibly, static plays between their ears on their mental TV set, then they just click the first button that looks appropriate and complain it didn't work.
The text of the message does not get read or parsed.
"You need to close the program to continue". Doesn't work.
"Unexpected X at line N" Doesn't work.
Drives me insane.
- Unfortunately, so many error messages are so utterly useless that it has taught many people that all errors are just pointless background noise even if they're actually giving useful info.
  
  I mean, java and Microsoft errors are preceded by 120 characters of useless trash oftentimes, that is equally as infuriating.

I just watched that Linus tech tips video where the guy uninstalls critical system components by accident while trying to install steam.
First the GUI for the package manager refuses to do it, then apt gives him a warning that he's going to break his system. It even makes him type "Yes, do what I say!" but he's too much of a clown to read the warning messages all over his screen. He even smirks at the camera about how silly it is that he would need to type such a thing before he proceeds to mess everything up.
People were trying to defend him, saying that the system shouldn't have allowed him to do it or that the warnings should have been flashing and shooting rainbows out of the monitor or that a robot arm should have come out and started honking his clown nose to let him know he was doing something stupid.
- In fairness, when you're used to windows those kinds of warnings basically mean nothing to you.
  It's like when you hit snooze on an alarm so many times that you just sleep through your alarm and it becomes background noise.
  Also, it's defiantly a glaring issue if installing steam means uninstalling your whole DE.
  Still, as a tech YTer who was exploring something out of his elements he should have looked into every error, warning, and message.
  
  Also, it's defiantly a glaring issue if installing steam means uninstalling your whole DE.
  Can you explain to me how the fuck that even happened?
  And 2. Could it have been prevented by him actually following the installation guide and rehashing the bloody image?
- Linus and Linux is a rare view behind the curtain
  There have been some accusations about him being a sociopath by Louis Rossmann and others, so it might just be that CIA money flowing into his pocket thats preventing him from rational thought
  Also, isn't he a fucking IT guy? How did he even manage to build that many PCs and make all those videos about tech topics when he can't even read a red coloured warning and having to type in a very suspicious message?
  
  I haven't watched much of Linus's stuff, but his behavior in the three Linux challenge videos reminded me of the way Conan O'Brien would act with his staff. It struck me as an off-putting blend of arrogance, entitlement, and impatient senility.
  
  Linus bothers me quite a bit and I'm fairly critical of him, but I don't know if I would go as far as saying he is a sociopath. We would probably even be friends, but I would call him on his bull shit. This is my own observations but he strikes me as having pretty strong ADHD combined with getting lucky and big a bit faster than he could adjust to.
  His company has a much lower turnover rate than the industry standard and it doesn't seem like anyone that has been on screen couldn't do well elsewhere. That implies to me that the working environment is at least pretty good. He also seems to want to do right by his employees and knows that he is the face of the company and ultimately their paycheck. That combined with an ego that is a little too big, and maybe some issues with reading the room associated with being on the spectrum (again supposition), makes some of his reactions to public push back understandable even if it's not OK.
  Also it depends on what you consider an IT guy. He doesn't have experience coding or doing any low level stuff, he just really enjoys building computers and tech in general which can explain a lot of his poor or dumb decisions. What he appears to actually be very good at with tech is his knowledge of supply chains, interactions between companies, and knowing what consumers are likely to actually want.
- To be fair that was a broken package in pop_os. It wasn’t entirely his fault. If his view was to operate as a normal user , having the os uninstalling your desktop environment when you try to install steam is a valid concern.
  
  This. I went to check the video and there's no way any user would expect installing steam to uninstall system packages. And yes, even though there's errors on the screen, the average user just clicks ok so that's the most average user experience. I do think it is strange he went to terminal to try to install when the UI failed, but as an old power user I might've tried the same. All in all, very unlucky for him to run into that problem, but also any normal user who immediately couldn't install steam would just be so put off by Linux not working immediately they'd probably go back to Windows. I was also genuinely surprised the video is only 3 years old

In the late 1990s/early 2000s, there was some satire article about how to get most effective Linux support. Just write an angry news/blog article about how Linux sucks because it doesn't (insert the thing you're having problems with here). You bet someone will immediately respond how you're an idiot and you should (insert detailed explanation of how to fix the thing here).

Of course i know him, he's me
- The skip button, it's right there, waiting to be clicked!

I've switched to Linux because at this point it's easier to deal with problems on Linux than using Windows and getting it to usable state.
And if something doesn't run on Linux... I use something else, easy as that.

Nvmd, I fixed the issue

Windows is better... oh, really? Linux is like a breath of fresh air for me, and in two years of using it, I have never noticed or encountered any critical problems or bugs, but when there is a problem, it is usually not so difficult to solve it because there are resources and people who can help.
My only regret is that I didn't try Linux a few years ago.
- Same experience here... It feels like what using personal computers was always supposed to feel like before capitalism infected it.
- I don't like windows, but I've been using various distros on and off for 15 years and it was absolutely never painless. Nvidia drivers still barely work for me (although admittedly they are shit on windows too). Making my computer wake from sleep is the stuff of nightmares. Integrated laptop webcam? No way in hell.
  The only thing I give Linux a top score in is compatibility with my audio interface.
- Windows is better - they wouldn't use it for atm's if it wasn't superior
  
  i've seen atms running os/2 warp. they take what they are given.
  
  People routinely use worse options because of familiarity
  
  Myguy, let me introduce you to the /s modifier
  
  Jokes aside, I asked my previous boss once why everyone kept paying for Microsoft products instead of using FOSS. The answer was paid support and you can sell it.
  
  Well they had to use Windows as OS/2 wasn't available/viable anymore.
  
  Bless your heart ❤️
  
  gr8 b8 m8

I've been in the comments section once or twice. The solution was "RTFM."
- The good old ways. I miss them.
  Nowadays, it’s more "User Manual? You mean the Manufacturer’s Opinion?"
- RTFM in this case means: Read the fucking man-page
  
  Sometimes I get confused with man pages and have to go on other sites with different explanations and examples. Maybe that's just me
- TFM isn't worth the R. It doesn't describe failure states or bugs in a way that a normal user understands or can work with. Either it works perfectly, or there's basically no way to figure out exactly what went wrong and how.

Yeah? Try playing MYST VR with a quest 2 and Nvidia GPU.
I love Linux, but sometimes I just wanna pin it against the wall and make violent love to it until my issue is fixed. Though usually the love making is more of a frustrating 6 hours of troubleshooting.
BTW, are we allowed to sexualize an OS?
- Initial release: September 17, 1991; 33 years ago
  Sure
- I had really bad performance with an nvidia GPU in VR in Linux, once, and all I could find that described the same specific issue I had was a steam community discussion post by someone who claimed that the steam vr compositor was just bugged, and no less that it was a bug regression, and there was nothing to do but wait for Valve to fix it. I think the post was already a year old when I found it.
  I haven't tried it again, yet, but I've also moved to arch with Wayland since then. And the nvidia drivers did become much more reliable for me, so maybe it will magically work out of the box this time... Or maybe it won't, and I'll just end up wasting hours trying to find a solution while wading through AI polluted Google searches again before giving up.
  
  This is honestly the only reason Linux is not my only OS. I have a laptop with an integrated and dedicated nvidia rtx3060 gpu, and Linux has trouble with the Nvidia drivers and I get stuttering in almost all games and 3d applications.
  I went into a discord specialised in lenovo Legion on linux, and even they couldn't help me, though they were very helpful. My requirements aren't even insane, I just want to slice files for my 3d printer without issues and play a 2d browser game from time to time.
  I'm still debugging it, it mug have to do with the power management firmware. But this is not ready for the mainstream consumer if its necessary to go this deep.
- quest 2
  There's your problem right there. /s

I used to do some linux training for new hires at my old job. The company had a training room with a rack of servers for lab work.
It was a training on how to deploy the product on a customer server. I personally wrote the instructions and tested them on the lab machines after a fresh install.
I had others test the lab instructions. I even had people from non-tech roles verify that they too could do the labs by following the instructions.
Still I get a guy in the training complaining that "this doesn't work" and I can see from the error on his screen that he must have skipped one of the steps in the lab instructions.
He's not even trying to figure it out. Even though others are finishing, he just decided that it doesn't work and gave up.
- Well, if you're expecting users to read...
  
  Yeah its a tough crowd sometimes. Especially when doing that training with our customers.
  I'll never forget the time I was explainging how something worked and one of the customers interrupts me saying, "I don't care about this -- can you just show me where to click?"

Windows and Mac have taught people to ignore safety error messages. We’re gonna be dealing with the fallout of that for generations.

Ngl, i love linux so much more and would never go back to windows but right now my audio jack doesn't work for my new pc build.
I've contacted the manufacturer of the motherboard, they say to try Windows
I've posted on linux questions subreddit, nothing replied
I've posted on EndeavourOS forums, got views, not replies.
I've gone so into the weeds I'm trying to remap pins because I'm assuming the manufacturer relies on something Windows pre-configures so audio will play but it never makes it out of the port but it's been weeks and I can't solve it.
Again, I'd never go back to windows but damn do I feel stranded rn.
Motherboard: Minisforum BD790i X3D OS: endeavouros
- Have you tried making a meme about how windows is so much better?
- Does it work on Windows?
  Because it could just as well be a shitty solder job
  Also next time never say you use Linux to a support tech. They will blame it all on linux, whether the pc is broken in half or covered in rat piss, it will always be you who broke it by using unsupported software.
  
  Yup, I noticed that I couldn't use an audio and microphone jack at the same time after an update, so I went around searching for what might have broke it. Then since Windows was still installed I tried it there and it still didn't work. I'm pretty sure it's a weird hardware error.
  
  This!
- What always has me seeing red is when I'm deep diving forums searching for anyone who has had my exact issue. Finding people with similar, but not exactly the same, issues with easy solutions that don't work for me. Finally finding one forum post from 9 months ago, it is literally the exact same issue I'm dealing with. One reply. It's OP a few days/weeks/months later replying to their own post only to say:
  Nevermind, I fixed it.
  But no solution, no response to commenting on the post or DMing.....
  Makes me wanna slap a mfr......
- From a quick search it seems that the mobo uses a Realtek audio chip, which is probably the actual problem. My current system build uses one and it barely worked under Windows, it'd randomly remap the channels, sometimes it just wouldn't come up properly (Showed as only a microphone, etc.), had lots of static noise, would constantly think I was unplugging and replugging headphones in, etc. Just a terrible experience compared to the Intel audio system the build before this used.
  As much as "just buy another bit of hardware" is an awful bit of advice, I'd recommend getting a USB DAC/soundcard, I bought a cheap soundblaster one and it fixed all my problems. USB audio is a well-defined standardised protocol that's supported by just about everything, does away with any driver issues or incompatibilities, can be moved between devices, etc. Mine's a "gaming" model so it's just a USB port on one side and a headset jack on the other, but you can also get ones with proper inbuilt amplifiers to run full speaker kits, etc.
- Does your monitor have speakers, or a headphone jack? Interested to see if the sound works that way. And very silly question, have you tried a different wire/device in the audio jack or only the one?

this is the way. the best way to get linux support is to claim something isnt there or working. instant flood of reply from nerds and adhs ppl.. i am not advocating it, but OP is wrong...
- It's not just Linux. Make a statement related to anything with authority where someone can see it, and someone will come along and take the opportunity to be Right on the Internet.
  
  Relevant xkcd: Duty Calls

Fine, I'll give this strategy a shot too: Linux is crap because when I switch USB audio interface with a switcher the audio becomes extremely borked likely because of buffer settings somehow changing, to me it feels like the buffer is too small and then all these audio crackling issues start propping up.
Windows doesn't have this issue whatsoever, it's only when I switch back to Linux in the switcher that the audio is borked.
Pipewire/Pipewire-pulse
- I haven't messed around with audio in a while, but a couple of years ago I did some home recording. And Linux at the time was horrible to use for recording. Got a bunch of latency and some other issues. I found a solution where one guy had written a bunch of scripts to deal with the buffering when switching audio driver. It helped, but it wasn't perfect.
  No idea what the state of audio is now, but it used to suck. And it will probably suck for a while since the major DAWs are all on Windows/Mac. But I would love to be proven wrong
  
  I use reaper on Linux to monitor my guitar coming in from Axe Fx 3's spdif output with very low latency. What exactly was giving you issues with latency ?
- I have a Bluetooth dongle headset-mic. Probably for the same buffer reason, it constantly breaks audio when I have multiple audios in/outs running.
  The only consistent fix is switching to another audio driver and playing a video on YouTube while I switch it back.
  
  YouTube specifically? Or does it work as long as any audio is running? I usually leave games on and switch back in and the audio's borked.

That's me but I can't make memes

Funny, this sounds an awful lot like people who complain about the fediverse
- This.
  You cant decide about your instance? Well how the fuck did you decide to use reddit then instead of all the other forum based Websites then?

Then ask why no one has patched this well-known bug after all these years, and get flooded with ‘anyone can contribute’ comments.
- But its true
  No one is paying these people to contribute to Linux. If someone would bring you donuts every day for free, you wouldn't start barrading them with comments about how he comes late sometimes.
  And if you want that bug to be fixed, pay a software engineer to fix it, out of your own pocket. If they then dont do it, then you can start talking about them being late.
  Be grateful for all these people making your computer more than a brick.
  
  Sure, but 'make your own doughnuts' isn't exactly a useful response to that.

Oké lets see how good crowd trouble shooting is...
Nobara on Fedora can not have the exact same mouse being plugged in multible times. They seem to merge into one and all but one will be ignored (at random).
Okey, without joking*. I have seen quite some people who are unable to Google anything. But I guess that's why LMGTFY was made.
[*] this is actually a bug, not a joke. If you happen to know the answer. Please share it, it's driving me nuts
- To be faiiiirrr googling nowadays is a sysiphean exercise in frustration
- Not nobara related but I found a Linux Mint thread about using xinput to adjust config to have left handed mode enabled for 1 mouse but not another. Maybe that will help. If they're wireless mice with dongles, maybe they're struggling in that one mouse is connecting to both receivers? If they offer both bt and wifi pairing you might be able to get around it by manipulating that, or if they can be plugged in that might help.
- Follow up question - why do you have multiple mice plugged into your computer?
  
  Trackball mouse for work, regular mouse for gaming. This is peak and you cannot convince me otherwise.
  
  My PC is connected to a TV and I steam to a diffrent room. So there is a mouse at the TV, at the couch, and in another room
  
  I like to point with both hands, and with my feet if I'm in a good mood.
- As in 2 of the same model?
  
  Yhea the exact same model, bough at the same time

Why switch to second person in the last panel?
- Because I wrote this while in class.

Sure, this applies most of the time. My big rendering workstation and Asus laptop run Mint so flawlessly, I was kicking myself for not trying this sooner. My brand new Dell G16 7630 has been a special kind of hell with over two months of forum diving. The keyboard backlight is being a crackhead. The video drivers are a chaotic mess that I'm wary of updating lest my machine completely freezes/bricks for the ~20th time, necessitating a Timeshift.
So, yeah, Linux is great, but that is not everyone's experience. For me, it's only fully usable 66% of the time. I'm still going at it, but those are shitty numbers. We FOSS evangelists need to acknowledge that usability, end-user support, and compatibility are an utter shitshow for the average schmuck. Also, this meme is glowing radioactive evidence of the toxicity undermining the FOSS movement.
When we start taking ownership of all that AND fixing the experience, then we can finally have the Year of Linux on the Desktop. Or we can sit here, say "hurr durr, look at stupid end-user," and wonder why normies refuse to switch to Linux.
- I started using Linux for real this year and your comment couldn't be more right. Linux community thinks that what is 'easy' for them is easy for everyone. "Just go into the terminal and type X" you just lost 95% of Windows users, specially when that command fails because of permissions. Same think happens kn Windows and the person just needs to click allow in that modal. Linux isn't easy enough yet, but it could be, but first we need to stop denying this problem.

What happened to RTFM?!?
- Check the Discord.
  
  🤮

I gave up on switching to linux after losing 2 entire evenings setting it up (linux mint) just for my games not to run and not a single solution I could find working.
I'll give it another try once I buy my new PC and set that up, but Linux is not as plug and play as windows and I totally understand that non-IT people want to stay away from it now. The community makes it sound as if everything is almost out of the box simple but that is not the case at all.
- Don't give up before you have tried using memes to get support!
  
  The only way to actually get support with linux issues huh 😂
- Then probably your Pc was too new
  Id always recommend using Opensuse anyway
  And how did your Games not run? Did you even try to look them up on Protondb?
  edit: Oh, I get it. Anyways, how much is Microsoft/the CIA paying you for this?
  
  This pc is from about 2022/2023
  The games were gold or platinum on protonDB and run fine on my steam deck
  Steam / Lutris said they're running, nothing shows up.
  Your edit is another reason I actually rather stay away from Linux instead of giving it a chance / asking for help. The community feels way too elitist and insulting to anyone not praising it.
  
  this right here is the bullshit that keeps people out, brother
  Same things goes for leftist thinking (I see you’re a .ml enjoyer)
  Stop trying to browbeat people into your ideology, calling them stupid provokes an irrational negative emotional response, even if your ideas are objectively more logical, as they’ll just reject it
  This is why capitalism is so effective with their “come to the dark side, we have cookies!”
  Just because it’s free doesn’t mean you don’t need to sell it