2d ago

'We're citizens!': Oklahoma City family traumatized after ICE raids home, but they weren't suspects

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How's everyone feeling about America having Nazi Gestapo and concentration camps?
- Supermax Prison, not just for brown people anymore
- I guess, after trying it, I'd have to say nah, not really into it.
  
  Too bad Americans are stupid enough to have to see for themselves before they judge.
  
  The conservative sister fucks are still celebrating all of this
  
  Your generalizations, friend, cut me to the quick.
- I feel used to it. We had concentration camps during the FDR admin, and we've had gestapo since shortly after 9/11. Trump didn't turn the US into shit, all he did was smear it on our faces.
  
  non of these raids happened under Biden, stop lying to yourself. Trump is 100% exponentially escalating the surveilance state
  
  Biden didn't do anything to roll it back, either, AFAIK. The democrats built their 2024 campaign on "Trump is a dangerous fascist" (and he is) right up until they shitcanned it when that kid took a shot at him. Well, they said he was a dangerous fascist, but they sure didn't act like it, and they left all the tools he would need handily lying around for him.
  
  That's about1.5% of the undocumented population in the US.
  For comparison, trump wants to deport 1,000,000 people a year.
  Trump is also deporting people without due process. He's deporting people who are here legally and going through the immigration system.
  The scale of difference here is the difference.
  
  To a death camp?
  
  And how many of them were sent to mega prisons in nations they've never been to in their lives?
  Zero. The answer is zero.
  
  we’ve had gestapo since shortly after 9/11.
  What?
  
  and we've had gestapo since shortly after 9/11.
  Ignorant shit right here
  
  Oh look, someone too young to remember life before the patriot act
  
  I wish.
  But no, I'm someone who knows what the Gestapo was and actually did.
  
  Me too. It was shit like this.
  
  Is this free association?
  Do you know what the Gestapo was? Abu Griahb is not analogous at all. Two completely different (both awful) things.
  Your photos were taken in Afghanistan.
  The Gestapo operated domestically
  
  You're splitting hairs. The United States arreats people without warrants, holds them indefinitely without trial, tortures them, and kills them. It's been doing so for over 20 years. I don't care where they're doing it. I care that they're doing it. You can "no true gestapo" at me all day long but that's close enough for me.
  
  It's not splitting hairs at all, they are important distinctions.
  
  Why? Are American lives more important than Afghani lives? Does torture suddenly become acceptable once you cross a national border? You know el Salvador isn't part of the US either, right?
  
  Are you incapable of good faith discussion? Who the fuck said anything about one thing being better or worse than the other? They're just different, and the distinctions are important.

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