🇵🇸 General Discussion Thread - Juche 112, Week 41 Palestinian Solidarity Edition 🇵🇸

My gf has been absolutely fuming over Palestina and how it gets protrayed in the media. She's even more radical than I am I think lol. Maybe this is her turning point. She's never been this mad at something political.

To all the reddit/fediverse liberals reporting these threads for not being pro-israel bootlickers:
show yourself, coward. you know you can't downvote, and your reports will do nothing, so why not voice your opinion?
- Also reports are not anonymous, we just choose not to publish their user names. They still get banned.
  
  Thank you for keeping this place sane.
  
  What would be the consequences of publishing them

I wonder if the soon to-be isnt'raelis in-exile will become the new Rh*desians, soon in 20-30 years in the future there would be songs, documentaries, tributes about how 'peaceful' their Ethnostate was before those ebil Uncivilized arab Terrorist took away their stolen land /s
- Annoying racists are a small price to pay for Palestinian liberation, but yes that will be the case.

How can there be civilians at all if mandatory conscription is a thing? Every civilian is a potential soldier in Israel. I feel bad for the people who were just born into the world without making any of these decisions and got hurt but they were, whether they like it or not, going to be used as a tool of terror by the Israeli state.
You can't use your civilians as weapons and then fall back and claim they're not a threat.
If Israel ends the mandatory conscription, and lets the civilians stay civilians, I might have more outrage.
- A good term for this, that Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz, and Sakai uses (i think), is Settler Garrison. Northern Ireland, the US western frontier, Israel, are some examples.
  These are the advance troops of colonialism, using terrorist methods to bully, kill, steal, and wipe out indigenous peoples. Occasionally they even have conflicts with the colonial powers on the methods / best ways to do it. The US revolutionary war was essentially a disagreement between Britain's settler garrison, and Britain trying to put a leash on their westward expansion.

Welp, just blocked another person I thought was cool over on Mastodon because they were boosting concern trolling about "Israeli civilians"
Just a reminder that if you're a western "leftist" and you're suddenly against Palestine now that they're fighting back, you're literally less radical than a lot of libs lol
- It is the duty of every communist to support the struggle against fascism all over the world. Destroy neo-Nazism in Ukraine; destroy Zionism in Palestine.

What are the odds of some thing happening in Ukraine all of a sudden because the spotlight isn't on them anymore
- From what I've seen about the status of the war in Ukraine, the russians have been pushing in some important areas, so I wouldn't be surprised if what happens is a sudden collapse of the front lol

it's like 9/11 times Pearl Harbor for my
ethnostate!

What do you think it's been for
for the last 75 years?

All settlers are hostile enemy combatants. If a settler brings his child to a stolen home he is using that child as a human shield.

all palestinian violence against israel is self-defense

leddit users forgetting that this is not reddit anymore lol. Report reason: "enables violence".

Here's some pictures of Israeli women. Oh, we've added the word RAPE to our headline, by the way. We also have a witness who says Hamas are a beastly force RAPING every WOMAN and KID in Israel. Please understand that we want to link Hamas and RAPE in your head. Because they may or may not do that according to our existing or maybe non existing source.
- Also, here is my article about Tribe of Nova, Israel´s would be festival of love. In this article you will see why I failed my creative writing class and how bitter it made me, eventually leading to me writing CIA propaganda for private media.
- "Don't worry, I'm a Muslim, we won't hurt you."
  Zionist settler shares her experience with 🟢 #Hamas fighter after the resistance infiltrated the settlements.
  The Zionists are clashing with their own rape allegations.
  https://t.me/mangopress/15970
- Classic Jim Crow era tactics -- "damn [redacted] going around raping our women!" Of course if you point out the similarity to most libs, they cry and call you a racist, because we're all supposed to pretend that a bunch of European settlers from widely different cultures and countries but with a similar religious background are in this day and age somehow "non-white."
- Yet somehow literal pictures of abu ghraib, etc aren't associated with western troops. Weird, just weird.
- That and baby killing are propaganda classics for a reason. Anyone who tries to push back against the narrative or has questions about the propaganda is immediately cast as a monster who doesn't care about women being raped and children being murdered.

Is it just me, or are the anticommunists more vocal than usual lately?
- They're out in force this week, spam creating accounts on all the "open" lemmy servers with pro-israel comments.
- IDF absolutely has a well developed bot and "influencer" network they deploy during times like this when they want to massacre a bunch of Palestinians again, plus all the well established relationships between American government and large news organizations with Zionist NGOs like AIPAC and ADL.
  Israel has become quiet adept over the decades at getting western rubes to buy all their bullshit.
  
  Although I’ve joked that Benjamin Netanyahu must be directly managing all of these accounts, I feel like a bot network would be unnecessary because there are likely enough dullards on the Internet to unwittingly do the neocolonists’ PR work for them.
  That said, I can’t dismiss the bot network idea out of hand. Can you show me evidence for it?
- Not just you

There have been many times in my life I have felt rage at my uselessness and powerlessness to do anything about something major happening. But not quite like this one. I can't stop checking the news and usually I don't care to receive news a day or two late. I wish I could be there.
- Reminding everyone to take care of your mental health. I know we all can't help but get emotionally involved in major events, but there is a limit to that.
  
  I'm gonna graffiti something and make a song to at least do something. Thank you friend.

Literally in my state they have announced to deport and “lawfully pursue” any foreigner that threaten national security by promoting “terrorism”. And I thought only evil russia and chynah are le freeze peaches oppressors.
- If they accuse China of it, they likely have or currently are doing it, that's the rule.
- Chynah does it by... forcing people to learn the skills for factory work and pushing them through the "proper" Chinese education system instead of the "oh they're a minority region they can teach whatever" education system.
  I, for one, am horrified that China would do such a thing. Xinjiang should remain an undereducated and underdeveloped backwater to avoid infringing on my freedoms.
  
  Agreed, otherwise it might be too hard for the alphabet agencies to ferment a rebellion in their geopolitical rival!

October is going good so far, there will probably be something in Ukraine since it's getting forgotten
- there are signs that usa is pulling out from ukraine and leave it to its own luck.
  i didn't see anyone make this point, but i think that the ukraine failure is one the motivators for this operation, seeing that nato is depleted and usa is going through a crises, im pretty sure they felt emboldened to launch this massive operation because is unlikely that usa can send that much help

liberals are doing olympic level mental gymnastics to support israel especially rn
- They're just Olympic-level mental athletes, so this is nothing new.

Have a nice week :D
- you too
  
  you three
  
  There back 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🥳🥳🥳🎊🎊🎊🎉🎉🎉💯💯💯💯👏👏👏🙌🙌🙌🍾🍾🍾🍾
- Oppo I hope ypu have the best week of us all

china is genius if this is true. big brain move
- also there were rumours about hamas using huawei phones and one of the reasons mossad couldn’t anticipate the attacks
  
  It was started by some baby brain on Twitter who posts weird takes, I wouldn't take it as gospel
- Miss Li Ding.
  
  😑
- Somebody of (apparently) Asian heritage is really peddling the Crafty Oriental stereotype, huh.
  Terminal self-hatred and white bootlicking.

So I was talking to someone about armadillos the other day, and the most common, the 9 banded armadillo has the strangest defence mechanism, despite being armored and protected from almost every conceivable threat everywhere but its belly, when scarred it jumps 3 feet into the air, exposing its soft underbelly. I am still trying to find out how this has any use, other than to confound the opponent.
- yes, armadillos really are interesting animals
  
  How did you know I would be talking about armadillos!
- Maybe to instictively doge a
  bite?
- Fuck, you beat me too it, rascal
  
  Look I know you where passionate about the jumping thing not being completly useless, but I had to put it out there that it is a really bad strategy first

Lol the left subs on Reddit have tons of people dropping into threads to argue, and it’s - no exaggeration - the worst attempts at liberals and conservatives appearing like they know what they’re talking about I’ve ever seen.
- Yeah it's really awful when they know how to type/speak and yet have no information to share. Like they'll write multiple paragraphs that boil down to "Hamas has bad vibes"

Wouldn't be surprised if the US uses all this to block Chinese ships coming up the Red Sea, trying to weaken and provoke China before the BRI is quite ready to properly supplement the sea trade with overland trade. Then pincer Chinese sea trade via it's SEA vassals, hoping to deter Egypt and SA from following through with joining BRICS. Subtly and slyly, of course. The US already has a presence in the Med. I don't want to get carried away but this could be the spark for a rather large fire. Especially if there neighbours get involved.
Remember to be saving your receipts (screenshots, pdfs). There's going to be a lot of 'editing' as this goes on. Like we saw with Ukraine.

man I had to take a bit of break from social media over the last few days because seeing the horrid takes about Palestine has my blood pressure rising

Mandatory listening: Hugo Chavez on Israel [diss track]
- I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
  yewtu.be
  inv.zzls.xyz
  yt.artemislena.eu
  piped.video

- Awww, she needs belly rubs, all the belly rubs,

- Lovely picture as always comrade, where is this one located
  
  Bateer Village , Palestine .

I had a training at my job today. Someone jumped in front of my train home so the coach had to give me a ride back. Because I work at the Union, politics came up in the car (always exciting with strangers). She told me she used to be a candidate for a neoliberal party here, to which I responded I was an active member of the marxist party. She audibly gasped when I said that and I could hear her contemplating about throwing me out of the car right there lol.

Breaking out my copy of "On Palestine", the notorious Chomsky X Pappe split record so I can factually tell people to fuck off with citations.

Just feel the need to say how much I love the
emote, it's very useful and funny, thank you Hexbearians for introducing us to it lmao
Though, oh right, now that lemmyworld has defederated from us, there won't be nearly as many places to use it 😩
- Figures, I was surprised they stayed federated with yall.
  whoever posted so hard they finally pulled the trigger.

I remember back when the ukraine war started that there were videos circulating in my family/friends groups about buildings getting bombed and destroyed, they were saying these buildings were in Ukraine and russia was doing it. A quick google search revealed that these videos were actually from Gaza, they had a clear watermark from a palestinian reporter (they didn't even bother to remove it). I remember calling them out and they didn't care, they were horrified that these buildings were in ukraine but as soon as i mentioned they were actually in palestine, 0 concern.
Now these very same people that were spreading the videos are now spreading the bs about babies getting beheaded, and even pictures of support for Israel with Gaza backgrounds (same as Bieber). 🥴

When I see a boo hoo see last touching text
made before they were liquidated hearts and minds puff piece.

Is there any easy way that I’m missing to sub to all of the hexbear communities from my lemmygrad account ? Or is it as much of a pain as it seems to be
Also, the amount of foaming at the mouth in Canadian media over Israel is rapidly becoming ridiculous, I’ve seen them bloodthirsty before but this feels over the top
- Canada has a significant Palestinian community and yet our media and reactions are even more rabid than the USA. I truly don't get it. Fuck Canada and our full embrace of US imperialism.
- Look how not nazis we are

I think I saw Zelensky in Brussels today

The situation in Palestine is really stressing me out.
Will the Palestinian Soghomon Tehlirian please show up and fire a bullet through Benito Netanyahu’s worthless fucking head already.

Shower throught: you know all those thousands of missles Hamas always uses to attempt to swamp the Iron Dome every time they go off? Why don't they use those missles to TEAR DOWN THE WALL?

India was also the first non Arab country to recognise palestinian statehood
- I was under the impression Cuba had always recognized Palistinian statehood and hasnt ever recognized Isn'treal

A recent study about jellyfish found that even species that only have about a thousand neurons are capable of conceptualizing past experiences and adapting their behavior. These are animals that barely have a brain, and even they are entirely aware that they have a life and wish to live it comfortably. I like jellyfish, the little baby ones you can see at an aquarium are cute.
A human being has 100 billion neurons. We are like galaxies compared to that jellyfish. We hold emergent mental processes in our heads that can conceive of things beyond our own lives, beyond our own times, beyond time itself. And there are other humans willing to snuff all of that out by just firing a rocket, just to keep from feeling a little discomfort, to avoid some guilt.

So the "Return Youtube Dislikes" extension is currently broken. There is no doubt in my mind that this is related to the Israel-Palestine situation. Someone important told YouTube to make sure the masses can't get an accurate read on how unpopular the propaganda is.

I am looking for some good books about the general history of Isn'treal from its inception to today.
Would be great if it was written from a ML perspective.

Theres apparently a website called https://posthog.com/

I remember seeing somewhere that there was Malcolm X like figure in India along with Gandhi, am I tripping?
- probably thinking of Bhagat Singh
  
  Could be Subhas Chandra Bose.
  
  Hmm, does fit the bill, thanks!

thoughts on China Miéville?
- He is a surprisingly fun writer to read, not just because he's a pretty overt commie. He is really good with imagery; he can paint a picture in your head, which is useful for the pretty unique qualities of his kooky sci fi. Perdido Street Station was bursting at the seams with great pulpy ideas that refreshed a very stale genre for me.
  (I have heard some unpleasant things about him being emotionally abusive to his ex though. If you don't like having to separate the art from the artist you might want to keep that in mind.
  
  Perfect answer. I'd add his Kraken is also very fun.

Slogan I came up with today (a little bit Baptist) "Bibi Bibi Burn in Hell. It is right to Rebel!"