ba dum tss

Fuck I wish imperial would just disappear. Metric is 100% better in every single way, bar none.

As a European who grew up using only metric I like inches for crafting. It's a good scale for the things I craft and I prefer fractions over decimals when doing quick math or measurements.

But that doesn't mean metric shouldn't be the standard.
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Can we make it so?

Is lemmy big enough that we can rise awareness for a change? Or the other way around, can we use the rallying behind the metric system to make lemmy popular?
- I don't think the majority of Americans have strong feelings about it one way or the other (despite what the internet may say). Honestly it's just so low on the list of priorities that it doesn't seem like we'll ever be in a stable enough place to care about tackling it. Hell we're still struggling to kill daylight savings time and that would require a fraction of the changes required to adopt metric.
Metric is 100% better in every single way, bar none.

Imperial unit ratios tend to have a greater number of smaller factors, which makes fractions nicer. 1yd/3 = 1ft. 1ft/3 = 4in.
- There's nothing nice or consistent about those fractions. A third of one is one of the other, but a third of that is four of the other? Imperial units don't convert in any meaningful or logical way, you have to memorise the conversions. With the metric system, it's all tens.
  
  And the fact that there are no usable units smaller than an inch and you have to use fractions should drive any craftsperson up the wall.
- The fractions don't help me when I go to the grocery store and unit price of one bag of nuts is "per pound" and the unit price of another is "per ounce". You'd better be good at dividing by 16 in your head if you want to price-compare! And you'd better be good at remembering how many fluid ounces are in a quart when you go to the olive oil aisle (hint: it's not 16).

I'm an American who designs PCBs in millimeters instead of thousandths of an inch. I'm doing my part.

Military, most manufacturing is metric only thing that's not metric are street signs, building trades and anything else the redcaps interact with daily.
- Except American aerospace.
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Yeah but what if I don't have access to a ruler and I only have my feet?

Lmao checkmate euro

I think USA officially switched in the 70s?

it's in small text on all of your products.

The argument there would be mass confusion is really silly becuse the rest of the world switched and they did just fine.

Is the USA saying it's not as clever as THE REST OF THE WORLD?

It's just a pun. They're both units of mass, hence there would be mass confusion.

It doesn't work with the pun, but the more confusing part for people would probably be the fact that pounds are used for both mass and force, but in SI, the units are different (kilograms for mass vs newtons for force), though that doesn't really matter for most people.
- Pounds aren't used for mass. They're explicitly a measure of weight. It's just almost always in the context of earth's gravity so the approximation to mass can easily be made.
the imperial units should be the smaller text
If the USA is OP then I guess so

This would be better with one panel right?

Comedy homicide
- ba dum tss.

We'll just call your local coke dealer, duh.

Pounds are a measure of weight (force) not mass like grams. Stone is the imperial measure of mass and slug is the standard unit (US unit). In metric Newtons would be equivalent to pounds.

I think in most common usage people use pounds as a measure of mass (convertible to kg). It’s why when you really mean force the abbreviation lbf (pound-force) exists, as opposed to the now more usual pound-mass.
- A pound at one gravity is equivalent to 2.2 kg at 1 gravity. Outside of aerospace there's not really a need to distinguish between mass and weight so it kind of gets used interchangeably.
  
  It just bothers me when people complain about units and then use the wrong kind of unit.
I came here to say this. A chunk of mass that "weighs" 100 grams is still 100 grams on the moon. A chunk of mass that weighs 1 pound does not weigh 1 pound on the moon.

It's a bit weird that the US uses a measurement that was created in the time where people used their body parts for measurement.

Like, the inch is around the size of a thumb, and a foot could be bigger or smaller depending of who measured.

Still, it's still used as a measurement that only a small fraction of the world still uses.

a bit weird that the US uses a measurement that was created in the time where people used their body parts for measurement.

Wdym?

What's so weird about my new monitor which is 7 penis in size?
- 21 inch diagonal, eh?
Still, it's still used as a measurement that only a small fraction of the world still uses.

That's a lot of stills 🤔

But coming back to your point, yes, I have no idea why the US insists on keeping the imperial system, it's outdated, ugly and inconsistent. Plus you cannot easily convert from one unit to another.
- Sorry, english is my second language.

I see this meme beaten to death yet most people I know use the metric system, and my US based company and their nationwide conglomerates use the metric system too and have for over twenty years.

To be fair, also in Europe imperial measurements are still used, for example in plumbing, where inches are used for some reasons still unknown, or in aviation, where they continue to measure, in part, in feet. In nautical matters it is a separate issue, measuring in knots and nautical miles, and has nothing to do with metric measurements either.

The ICAO has apparently recommended using the international system of units since 2010, but it hasn't been widely adopted yet.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Civil_Aviation_Organization

What amazes me is that we pretty much are converting, just very slowly, one thing at a time. In school we all learn the metric system, and it's used all over in industry and government. At the supermarket, everything is labeled in both systems, and some things have started trending towards metric as the default. We are all used to the 2L bottle size. The old fifth of a gallon bottle, though some still call it that, has been replaced by the 750ml bottle. More recently the 20oz bottle has been phased into the .5L, mainly--I'm sure--to shrink the amount while keeping prices the same, but still it's progress in this regard.

I think the transformation will be effectively complete when highway signs use kilometers. But I don't see that happening any time soon.

It would be a weighty decision to be sure.

It weighs on a lot of people's minds