Will you pay $500?

Making the welcome tour paid is completely baffling.
- they really want to make a new Wii Sports... but they fail to realise the difference between Wii Sports, Nintendo Land, 1 2 switch and Welcome Tour.
  Wii Sports was a pack-in Game!
  
  Wii Sports was a pack-in Game!
  That's their problem: the biggest game on the console that everyone knows was given away for free.
  Execs: "Do you know how much money we would have made if we sold Wii Sports to people!? We do that from now on!"
  Gamers: "F that, I'm not paying full price for a tutorial!"
  
  I would love to really give 1,2 Switch a try, but I never will.
  
  And good... Nintendo Land sucked

I'm still flabbergasted we've arrived at games costing 100€ now. Not some collector's edition, just the normal game. On a console that'll set you back 500€ on its own, not to mention the service subscriptions. Even the god damn next-gen improvements for existing games supported through backwards compat now cost a 2-digit sum. What's next, subscriptions for device features (which you already paid big money for) to work like it's a freaking BMW? It's just utter insanity, and people are still paying for all that shit.
- oh boy, do I have news for you! The Nintendo Switch 2 has a C-Button on its controller which opens their new feature "Game Chat" for which a Nintendo Switch Online subscription is necessary. This means there is now a dedicated button on the controller, which will open a popup that tells you to buy their subscription!
  
  And it definitely isn't going to get accidentally pressed at the worst possible moment, interrupting your gameplay and likely making you lose! Especially in an online game!
- Those backwards compat costs ain't optional either. Either payup (for each game) for super HD or don't play your existing games at all.
  
  There's a difference between switch 2 edition (upgraded versions) and original switch 1 versions. It can run both, you don't need the upgrade (unless you want the newer features).
  
  Almost all Switch games are natively compatible with the Switch 2. Stop spreading fake info, it does not help making whatever case you're trying to make.
  
  are you serious??? what the fuck
- For me, they're the same price they've always been 🏴‍☠️.
  
  Yarrr!
- What's next, subscriptions for device features (which you already paid big money for) to work like it's a freaking BMW?
  I mean, yes, they already announced that in the direct. The new GameChat built-in-discord thingy is only free until next March, at which point you'll need a subscription to continue using it
  
  I mean the switch already had that with cloud saves and multi-player locked behind a subscription.
- And on top of all that, patent trolling to hamstring any competition. I'm done encouraging their nonsense with my money.
  
  Remember their attempt at patenting relative motion? Absolutely absurd…
- I could understand if it was a cutting edge powerhouse system. But it's apparently somewhere around PS4 Pro level hardware.
  
  Which is, to be fair, impressive for a highly mobile device. Kudos to those engineers. All that scummy fucking extortion shit still is fucked up though, no matter how you look at it. The only reason anyone buys this is because of the brand and its beloved exclusive franchises. In a more fair environment they'd be utterly demolished if they tried to pull of this bullshit, and the practice of preventing you to play your own older games to make you buy them over and over again (or hell, even not owning your games anymore) would be outright banned.
- They will keep doing it as long as people keep buying it.
  Having a lot of fun on games that cost a tiny fraction of that. I think Isonzo is the most expensive I bought in the past few years and its £40, got it in 2022.
- Did you expect them to keep 1990s pricing forever?
  
  Putting aside the fact how little the median citizen earned more in wages in comparison to the prices going up:
  No, of course not. However it's not just the games and the console that we're talking about. We're talking about them monetizing every single bit more and more, especially adding subscriptions and taking away ownership. In regards to Nintendo at least they still ship real cartridges with the working game on them, but any digital purchase is neither owned by you nor can be preserved without the help of hackers. They try to continuously make money while giving less and then on top of that the prices went up.
  Not to mention their patent troll, anti-preservation and fangame-killing practices. Just in case anyone wants to argue for the company being "not as bad as others" or sth.
  
  No, I expect (not really, because greed) that as companies make bank with not only charging for subscriptions and MTX, but the fact that the gaming industry made around $20 billion in the 90s and $184 billion in 2022, that they can charge reasonable prices and still make money hand over fist. But I get it, they charge the absolute maximum that gamers will tolerate, and it's ultimately gamers' fault.
  
  If they had kept 1990s prices, they would already be $100 or more. 🤦‍♂️ You know how fucking expensive NES and SNES games were back then? They weren't often $50 or cheaper. They were often $90-120!
  
  My copy of teenage mutant ninja turtles tournament fighters for the NES was 50 bucks in 1994.
  That’s a $50 price tag for a “previous generation” console.

Nintendo is on the same level as HP for me. As in they will never get another cent from me.
- hewlett packard or harry potter?
  
  Lovecraft
  
  Yes
  
  Horse Power
  
  … yes
  
  Sauce
- hey at least nintendo's hardware is half decent compared to hp
  
  The product design is very good. The game distribution is very bad. Overall a average product.
  I want the switch but with a steams sto... Wait!

I wish Nintendo would catch up on Nintendo Lore. When is Link going to go relax with Zelda, only for Toadsworth to exit a pipe and ask if Link has heard of the Mushroom Initiative.
- We could call it Super Smash Bros. Avengers.

1-2 Switch being a $60 game that didn't come with the Switch was just as bogus. And now they're doing it again.

original gameplay supported by lore
i mean pretty dang close but i think there's a slight difference between injecting people with praying mantis DNA and praying mantises creating mantis society by themselves
- Sounds like two new testing opportunities. Get to it!

i REFUSE to pay 500 for the new switch, i don't even want to play any Nintendo games at this moment.
- It sounds like you shouldn't buy the switch regardless of cost if you don't want to play any Nintendo games on it.
  
  Yeah if I didnt want to play any nintendo games, I probably wouldn't buy a switch.

My switch is in the closet, so no. But, if I did currently play switch games, yeah.
I dislike the pricing, but I feel like it's probably fair. I like comparing $price/hr-entertainment vs. going to the movies. I think for most games, it will still be better value. But, I can understand using other metrics. A dropout.tv subscription is only 6.99/mo and there's at least a couple hours of new stuff being added to that each month, I think.
- It's fair for Mario kart where 7 others can join without owning a license. The social play elements can justify costs for a few.
  Their narrow audience targeting could be a risky bet. We'll see.
  
  3 others can play Mario Kart or 7 other can play Smash Bros. on my Switch without any of them owning any games or hardware.

"Will run on your machine"
If you have a PC. Otherwise, it requires special hardware, too.
- Procedes to install Linux on [INSERT CONSOLE HERE].
  
  You have to go through a magical girl transformation first
  
  You must be the pride of [SUBJECT HOMETOWN HERE]
- No it will run on my oven

its like they're trying to make PlayStation a monopoly, or is it all apart of the plan?
idk i guess
- Cant be... Astro's Playroom was free.

I play my Switch now and then, and tend to dump unnecessary amounts of money towards always having the latest console, but there's been nothing shown that has tempted me to get a Switch 2. I'll wait until there's a new Zelda game and an OLED model.

For Metroid, NGC games library and an NGC controller, hell fucking yeah
- Sounds like you should buy a Nintendo Game Cube
  Also you can use a GameCube Controller with the Switch 1.
  
  Oh believe me I have tried, getting a used one in good condition, no chipped, here (SA) with working controllers is extremely hard. Forget mint, that's impossible.
  Also the games are all scratched for some reason and tend to not read sometimes
  The memory cards, those are the easiest to solve but the rest is a problem
  About the NGC controller on switch, yeah I was aware as well, but haven't really needed it, i want it mostly to play NGC games. The switch controllers are really good for the switch games so I haven't suffered on that front