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ImOnADiet @lemmygrad.ml

1y ago

Actually found a couple of normal people for once

Like, I’m not asking for people to like our instance and become communists overnight or even stop calling us tankies, but these are two of the few I’ve seen that will admit they like at least certain aspects and that we aren’t soulless bots or propagandists out to eat your children or something like that. Covered their names out of respect for not being deranged like so many other people on lemmy.ml and especially .world

(Also glad someone appreciates our nazi dunking)

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The Reddit exodus brought a lot of heavily propagandized idiots. They are shocked to experience not being inside the Western approved echo chamber. Give time for their brains to normalize.
- It’s been months how much longer is it gonna take im tired of them man
  
  It is thousands of them and most of us just stay in our spots, so you shouldn't be surprised that we've only flipped, what? a few dozen? so far.
- We gotta post outside of our instances with alt accounts or they will just defederate. It's difficult to have your worldview challenged and instinctually people will just refuse to hear it
  
  I try to do that as often as possible, but it's draining.
- They're not gonna normalize without exposure and a large contingent of Hexbears and Lemmygrad users don't post outside of their local instances. And that's on top of twitchy fingers hitting the big red "DEFEDERATE" button.
  I think unless more folks start putting in effort to have constructive dialogues (or any kind of presence really) outside of the local instances the echo chambers will continue undisturbed.

Well I'll be. A .world poster who doesn't seem to IMMEDIATELY be a stormfronter. Will wonders never cease?
- It’s certainly possible — maybe they’ll join us one day 🤷
  
  inshallah
- Ikr? Was proud of that poster, and if im being super generous they could have just been using “tankie stuff” because they knew the libs would get what they meant and they themselves dont actually use the word
- Check out the .world posts in this thread. A lot of them are actually good
  
  Just because there's a handful of based folk over there does not solve the mass amounts of settler exceptionalism their instance has got going on. As I've said before-- if .worlders don't want to be tarred with that brush, they can move; but my experience with .world is it's terminally crackerish and 9 times of 10 wasted breath and wasted electrons trying to get through to them.

Y'all are literally my favorite two instances in this whole bitch keep it up!!
Glad to see some other normal people for once 😅

Can't get too close to those damn tankies or they will steal your heart 🤣
- Relevant hexbear emote
  
  Me and my girlfriend frfr

This is the kind of live and let live I can live with

What was the original post complaining about?
- Some dude went on r/redditalternatives and was whining about how mean and unfriendly people are on lemmy, which is for sure a problem with him lol
  
  Before the Reddit exodus, lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml were some of the most wholesome online spaces I experienced. It was like a breath of fresh air and I felt a good sense of community and friendliness here. Now many toxic people jumped to this side of the fediverse, especially on lemmy.ml. Lemmygrad.ml is now my main go-to instance as it is the best one that still has managed to retain its camaraderie, even though it took a slight hit.
  
  If everyone you come across smells like shit, you probably shit your pants

I am somewhat curious what the outsiders think of /c/capitalismindecay, which ideally should be one of the least objectionable subcommunities from their perspective. Then again, my explicit rejections of attempts to equate the U.S.S.R. with the Third Reich (on which, believe it or not, even some liberals are capable of agreeing with me) are likely to turn off the most close‐minded anti‐Bolshevists. Nearly one week ago a couple of chumps expressed their disapproval of this post for contrasting the Munich accord with the German–Soviet nonaggression treaty.
But the goal of /c/capitalismindecay is simply to enhance and formalize our understanding of fascism; ‘defending’ the people’s republics is merely the sporadic consequence of ruling‐class education obfuscating and oversimplifying fascism for decades (which frequently involves conflating it with socialism in one country). If my goal was primarily to defend or praise the people’s republics then I could use subcommunities better suited for that, such as /c/communisthistory. For /c/capitalismindecay, the most that you need to do is accept the principle that the Axis was worse than the U.S.S.R., which sounds obvious and trivial to us but can be surprisingly difficult for some people.
- For /c/capitalismindecay, the most that you need to do is accept the principle that the Axis was worse than the U.S.S.R., which sounds obvious and trivial to us but can be surprisingly difficult for some people.
  Problem is you are fighting against stuff like the Double Genocide Theory, which was literal nazi propaganda made to muddy the water and "both sides" the actual Holocaust, and even though that propaganda wasn't even remotely credible when it was published it has since been reheated and served up as Cold War propaganda that was repeated so often that it's just "common sense" at this point.
  And part of what makes atrocity propaganda so effective is that once people buy into it it is filled with thought-terminating clichés that are built in which makes challenging that narrative difficult.
  
  Yup, just the idea of becoming a "genocide apologist/denialist" makes it hard to even open a conversation, let alone a good faith one.
- An Anarcho-Bolshevik effort post on my low effort post? Im not worthy, blessed day
  
  Honestly though, I would imagine that as long they’re not a lost cause (i.e. not a lib who emits so many particles that they melt my
  ) that they hopefully at the very least appreciate the amount of effort that goes into your posts, which then could lead to further understanding down the road.

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