Why is the culture of hate growing on Lemmy?

More people more drama. I rarely see rudeness in my experience

I don't think it's "growing," more that as society continues to get worse people's outlooks grow darker.
- world on fire
  people in fire
  OP: Why aren't you smiling?
  
  Pretty much!
- I don’t think it’s “growing,” more that as society continues to get worse people’s outlooks grow darker.
  See, that's the problem. I don't think the world is getting "worse," it's just the doomscrollers on Lemmy wanting it to be worse to fit their own twisted narratives.
  I think a lot of Lemmy posters are depressed and actually want everyone else to be depressed.
  
  I don’t think the world is getting “worse,” it’s just the doomscrollers on Lemmy wanting it to be worse to fit their own twisted narratives.
  For many MANY groups it is getting objectively worse.
  For those in the USA:
  if they are trans they are at risk for violence or legal consequences for simply going in a public bathroom.
  if they work for the federal government they have lost or are at risk for losing their livelihood.
  if the weren't a natural born citizen of the USA they are at risk for deportation to a prison in El Salvador irrespective of their circumstances of student visa, asylum visa, green card holder, even naturalized citizens.
  if they are a women, their lives are now at risk from preventable disorders if they get pregnant
  if they are old or disabled they are now at risk of being declared dead and having their retirement Social Security income cut off
  if they are a child they are at risk of dying from preventable diseases (like measles or whooping cough) even with decades old effective vaccines available, but not used.
  if they are poor they are at risk for possible hunger and starvation as basic food assistance has been cut around the country deemed as "waste"
  if they are a veteran needing medical care they are now at risk from cuts to staff that facilitate care for the people that stood in defense of our nation.
  For our great historical allies of Canada and Mexico:
  they are getting their economies destroyed because they trusted the USA to honor its own written treaties.
  For the rest of the world:
  they just today the world got an unjustified kick in the shins with nearly global trade tariffs from the USA.
  The only group that aren't generally hurt yet are: well off older white men
  As a member of that group I find it fucking disgusting what is being done to everyone that isn't in this group at the hands of this group.

I've found much more genuine, honest discussion on here than other platforms. More people say thanks when someone corrects them. I feel like I'm talking to reasonable adults, for the most part.
- It definitely depends on what communities you're in!

I feel like casual rudeness and insults have become more common as more people have come over from Reddit.
- God damet, redditors ruining a nice thing again :(
- The first few waves of people are going to be the asshats that got banned for one thing or another. Some good people, mostly bad apples.

Are people negative and rude or not expressed passion towards anything?
Also, I think there is a good passion for tech surrounding this community. I like that.
- Yeah, the tech community here is pretty awesome. Politics community, definitely not awesome.
- Yeah ! Except in the dev/code realm... They seem very aggressive to each other, specially if you whisper something like: Rust is safer than C !
  I don't really get it, but I find It very pleasant to read when passionate people write a whole essay I don't even understand 1/10 of what they are writing... However, there seems some heated negativity in that community !

What communities are you frequenting?
The ones I sub and post to have been nice.
- Same here

Please also report people being rude, that's a temp ban here.
- What's with all the downvotes? I swear there has to be vote manipulation going on with some of these threads.
- ehhh i wouldn't it way to start and angry mob and sometimes i dont trust mods descension. since even servers with no rules will make up reasons for a ban
  
  Find the best available option? Or start your own server with no rules and attract others who want no rules?
  I think a good community would have restrictions to avoid unnecessary hate

Its the internet, no matter how much people here like to think lemmy is some kind of special utopia its no different to any other site or social media.

We're negative doomscrollers, true. But most people seem pretty polite, at least in my experience.
- Your right about the doom scrollers part. Everyone on Lemmy atleast on the larger subs are always negative. Politics are dominating the main subs and explore page. It's such a turn off. Politics needs to generally stay out if the lime light. Instead of doom posts thrown in your face. Non stop.
  
  We all have our reasons for being here. The politics is definitely depressing, but it's something a lot of Lemmites have in common.
  You're right that it'd be nice if there was more going on.
- I can be negative. But I love people and want the best for everyone. What I don't like are the toxic systems of control that some people are under, and some people follow. Aand sometimes I can be swept up in the injustice, and lose my patience with extreme followers.
  I apologise in advance to this community if I make someone's mood worse, instead of better. I can often fail, and yet we should all strive to be a healthy member of the communities we inhabit!

You'll have to be more specific. I'm not seeing any unusual amount of negativity.
What's that thing about expressing any passion? What do you mean by that?
- Go to any political post. Everyone is calling others names and it’s not productive at all.
  
  But that's humans? It's always been like that, everywhere at all times. The only thing that's changed, maybe, is that Lemmy is growing and there's more discussion in general so of course the absolute number of things that cause name-calling has grown too, just like the absolute number of things that don't.
  
  Yep, most smaller communities on Lemmy are awesome. Political communities are terrible and the people who are mad at ya in those, will follow you to non-political communities just to downvote and harrass. It's toxic.

Selection bias mostly, you only remember the negative interactions. I'm new here but I've not run into any particularly negative or rude people so they don't seem super common, nowhere near like reddit.
- yeah i noticed they tend to go after certain posts and they need to be primed by either downvotes or a comment. the rude people will be quiet if you make safe posts but if they get a hint that there other people that don't like you then they dogpile. i noticed a good way to trigger it is to basically say or imply you do things without their approval or you dont care what they think
  
  but if they get a hint that there other people that don’t like you then they dogpile.
  Yep! And they'll follow you to other communities just to downvote. It's crazy how some here.
  I still like Lemmy more than Reddit tho!
  
  That sounds.. rather conspiratorial.
  Also, just yesterday I posted a longish rant about doing what you want and not caring about what people think in a comment and the only reply I got was 'This is the kind of pep talk I need!', so.. shrug Guess we travel in different circles.

It’s probably a downstream effect of the souring mood in the United States as the consequences of the current administration and our slide into fascism become increasingly apparent. Can’t speak for the rest of the world, but it’s hard to believe things are getting better out there.

The Tumblr effect
Thing allows freedom of speech Thing now has "bad apples" Thing either get lobotomized or accomodates with that freedom.

Reddit energy
- The amount of dogshit takes from 2 week old to 3 month old accounts is absurd, Lemmy instances should institute a one month lurking period or something. Some fuckass actually posted Asmongold to a gaming group. Its a tidal wave.

Okay, there are three reasons why this is:
Anonymity grants people the ability to be assholes.
You've done something or said something that was going to get people riled up over.
People from rejected instances, sites .etc come here to carry over their shitty nature.

Why are most people here are negative and rude?
Thank you for pointing this out. I found this place as an alternative to Reddit, but whoa, I think the hate for anyone who doesn't join the groupthink is actually worse here than on reddit.
I've actually had posters on here follow me to other communities just to downvote and talk crap about me, even if the community/subject had nothing to with their original beef about me. And they would brag about doing it!
Never had that happen on Reddit! Of course, won't stop me from posting, and I just think it's hilarious. Weird though!

My theory is that for-profit social media companies push conflict and controversy because it increases “engagement.” So, people are conditioned to be hostile and hiss like a cat at the first sign of disagreement (real or imagined). Lemmy, obviously, has different incentives.
It’s happening on Mastodon and BlueSky too. I try to respond with kindness and sincerity. (I don’t always succeed. I kind of suck at it, to be honest. But if we all even can halfass human decency, it’ll be better than most of the internet.)
- +1 ! Need to work on my morning Lemmy scrolling... Grumpy as fuck and not being nice to people sucks :// !

i noticed that too. i chalk it up to people are always seeking approval and they want to tell express to everyone how the think and feel in hopes that people will express the same. its not everyone id say at most 30%. also you have to keep in mind that this is where the reddit rejects go (i can say that word because i got banned off of reddit lol).
another user got mad and attacked me for saying "my morality and logic is different" and said nothing about why my differences is bad.

Things are hard out there, and that makes people feel like finding hills to die on. The less stressful life is, the better the discourse, usually.

Totally agree. People here are some of the worst I have ever seen. Like actually worse than Reddit. Easily. Pretty sure most people here are just miserable depressed fucks. Kinda makes sense honestly.
- Are you sure you're not just getting back what you're putting in?
  My experience has been so completely opposite, I simply have to assume we are using the platform in some fundamentally different way.